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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that applying disc has been found and is

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I occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this work

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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Network

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all right welcome Fade to Black I am

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your host Jimmy church tonight

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Dave Schrader is here today is May 2nd

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this is Fade to Black and we've got

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Darkness Dave here and now I'm just

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gonna let everybody know right before

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show time I'm talking to Dave and and

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we're going back and forth and my

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computer crashed and so one of the

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computers here and I rebooted it and now

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I don't have uh

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my show notes up in front of me so I

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can't I can't say anything about uh

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Darkness Dave uh without you know

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without my notes in front of me and I

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feel lost I feel I feel lonely I I just

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don't know oh now I've got my notes back

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so now I can say Dave is an experienced

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Paranormal Investigator host of a

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popular paranormal podcast paranormal 60

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with Dave Schrader you can also see him

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on Travel Channel Discovery plus hit TV

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show the holes and files uh ghost of

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Devil's perch which is absolutely

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amazing you can also recognize him from

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his appearances on Paranormal State

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coach Adventures Coast uh ghost

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adventure screaming room paranormal

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challenge haunted hospitals Fight Club

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and in the shock docs the curse of

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Lizzie Borden and the demon in the White

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and so much more and with that I'm just

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gonna go straight to it and just say

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welcome back to fade to black David

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Trader how are you sir hello my Schrader

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knots I'm back it's good to see you man

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you know it's a good thing see the fader

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yeah yeah the fender nuts created their

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own name they did that on their own that

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wasn't me

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where did you get this Schrader knot

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idea from Dave I only call them my

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Shredder nuts when I'm on your show but

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what I do love is that your fans when

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I'm gonna be on your show will tweet out

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and they're like all right Jimmy's got

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Team Shredder gather Schrader knots he's

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back on the show tonight they love it

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man they love it they love it but I do

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get I get a little Commish on the

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Schrader not t-shirts right I get a

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little yeah as soon as I put them out

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Jimmy you'll get out he'll get a I'll

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give you 95 of all of my Schrader not

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memorabilia I get some Vig I get The Vig

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that's right all right well welcome back

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to Schrade to Black what are we talking

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about tonight you know hey hey this is

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I've been thinking about this uh for a

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few days with you and I I mean we've

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done so many shows together and so many

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things but

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um you know and what hasn't been asked

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before and you do I know you do the same

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thing right I I've had this guest on

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somebody I got to go into a new Zone

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um and and I was thinking about you know

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the opening Salvo and what it would be

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and then I I started thinking about

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myself and you and I and the

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similarities and and there there's quite

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um and there's the obvious ones but

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little more uh intrinsic I should say

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um which is you and I have acquired a

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vast amount of knowledge

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and that's what comes with hanging out

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with other people and doing interviews

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and just out there and asking questions

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and you become a sponge and you get it

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from so many different mindsets and and

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and types of research and things and you

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so the question is this with what what

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is it that you have learned you have

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been at this for a long time Dave

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what is it is something is it something

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about the Paranormal and Supernatural is

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it something personal about life uh

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family the world the Universe I mean

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you know this will sound so

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I don't know tree-huggery but it's true

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I've I've learned that

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education is an ongoing process the

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things I believed in

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17 years ago when I started my journey

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in paranormal radio

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have radically changed over these years

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I I'm not as

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solid on anyone's subject I'm fluent I

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take different people's Concepts and

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beliefs and I listen to them and I

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realize that somewhere in between all of

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these theories is the truth and I think

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it's sloppy it's it's a little bit of

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this a little bit of that and there's

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different elements of all of it and I'm

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not uh you know I guess I'm kind of

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eccentric I I go down the middle of the

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row and I take a little bit from every

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side that makes sense to me and and

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keeps me moving forward because you

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never know who's going to have a new

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insight

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you know I I find that education comes

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from the most unlikely sources sometimes

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it reminds me of

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being a kid I was probably 16 years old

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I was at uh Memorial Day weekend we used

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to go up near Rockford Illinois to this

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big campgrounds with our friends of the

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family and their kids and uh I you know

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I was an insecure teenage boy

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and there was this really cute girl who

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kept eyeing me up from the picnic bench

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across the way and I just didn't have

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the the guts to go over and speak to her

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and this 10 year old kid Tony that we

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were friends of the family came up to me

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the 16 year old and he goes why don't

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you go talk to her and I'm like oh look

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no I can't and he goes Dave she's a

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person just like you and I and she's

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probably just as nervous

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about you coming over to talk to her as

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you are about her coming over to talk to

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you why don't you just make the first

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and I'm like okay Yoda right this what

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do you know you're 10 years old what

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could you possibly know but it gave me a

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totally different perspective and I

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stood up and I walked over and I

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introduced myself and I had a great time

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that weekend with this girl and and just

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had a great new friendship and somebody

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to hang out with that was my age and and

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just had a wonderful time but had that

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door not been open for me by a 10 year

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old I would have been sitting brooding

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and Moody all weekend wishing I was

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somewhere else instead of being in the

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moment and I think that's what a lot of

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this has taught me is being in the

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moment more even when I'm investigating

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claims to the supernatural I want to

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absorb the location I'm in I want to

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listen to the people I speak with and

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hear their stories and their feelings

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and their uh way that that these things

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have affected them and whereas before it

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was all about me me me me now it's about

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hearing you and learning from you so

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that's kind of been the big takeaway for

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me over 17 years of doing the show in 55

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years of life is you know starting to

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just take it all in and right it doesn't

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serve me I eject and what does I keep

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close and even the stuff I eject I don't

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throw it completely out because maybe

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there'll be somebody that can explain it

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in a more concise clear way later in the

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future and I can re-tie it to that

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notion so I just you know I've just

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found ways to keep it entertaining for

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myself

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Dave Schrader is a piece of play I get

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it I get it you're valuable

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and you have to either you have to be

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that way you know what my I I've been

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saying this over the last couple of

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weeks I've got this like fear that has

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entered me and it's a strange one

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um and so let's talk about it Dave uh

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sure let's get on the couch here for a

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second

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um you know what my Pandora's Box is you

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know what my phone my Pandora's Box

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is that I become someone that doesn't

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right that's a crick that would just

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freak me out and I had on

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um uh I had a string of conversations

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over the last couple of weeks with some

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very skeptical Skeptics all right and

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when you're around them dude they have

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got the blinders full on I mean you know

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dude they don't they don't they're not

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curious about a damn thing

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they're they're just

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would really that would be

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do you remember um that uh what was that

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uh that video with Metallica with the

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with the with the soldier that wakes up

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paralyzed oh uh yeah yeah oh man I can't

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think of it yeah I know what you're

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talking about that's that's that's that

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you know you open up your eyes and and

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you can't move you know that's a crazy

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video for me yeah who wants to just be

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in a place where you know it all I that

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would you're right that would drive me

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bonkers I prefer to feel like I've got a

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good handle on things but

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what else can I learn from this what can

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this person share with me that gives me

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a totally different perspective on it

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even the skeptical I I love good

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Skeptics I love a skeptic who will sit

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down like Dr Michael Shermer to me is a

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good skeptic because he's respectful he

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doesn't have to believe what I believe

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he's not asking me to believe what he

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believes but he's saying Dave this is

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why I believe this

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and here's the logic behind it and I

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appreciate that then there are bully

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Skeptics who are just well what are you

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an idiot what are you an idiot Jimmy

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well you'd you'd have to be an idiot to

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believe that and that's where will that

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ever take anybody that's not a dialogue

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that's berating over talking I don't

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want to be in that position

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um and you know there's

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what we do

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is a dying art form

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because

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you and I Ponder we think beyond the

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moment you and I have both had

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compliments that I know other show hosts

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have not when we get done guests have

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said to me I've been interviewed for 30

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those are some of the best thought out

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questions I've ever been asked

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that was some of the and it's because

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I'm not going down a list of the top 10

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questions and not varying from them

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and I I feel sorry for the people that

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do that because

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you know I joke around about I was

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helping my daughter's class yesterday

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they're doing a podcast deal for for

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school in the final quarter and they

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each have to pick a podcast topic create

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a podcast around it and so I was talking

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to them about podcasts talking to them

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about how you have to kind of think

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outside the box and it's okay to

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disagree but be polite with one another

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and listen to the answers that are given

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because

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you know I've you and I could interview

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a guest

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and another big time radio show host

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could interview that same guest and we

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could look at the 10 questions that were

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given to us he can look at the same 10

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questions and you ask so Dave tell me

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about that experience you had where you

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saw a talking bear and I say yeah Jimmy

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this bear came out of the woods and

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asked me for a picnic basket and then he

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and his little buddy another talking

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bear grabbed it and ran off into the

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woods as Ranger Smith pulled up

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and you would be like wait a minute

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you you legitimately saw

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a talking a pair of talking bears

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Dave how did that make you feel

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and there's another host that'll look at

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the next question and say what kind of

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sandwiches did you make that day right

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right right and and miss the fact that

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there's so much more meat

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on the bone the ten bones of the

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questions the 10 points are fascinating

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but what comes out of them is even

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better digging deeper and listening to

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that guest for those moments when you

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can almost hear them break and I don't

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mean emotionally but

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they're back in that moment

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yeah I I love that when when that when

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that happens and

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um it only comes with

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time you cannot you don't just get a USB

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microphone and plug it into an iPad and

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open up a YouTube account and suddenly

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have experience it just doesn't work

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that way

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um it comes over time there is an art to

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the interview and how I've evolved how

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you evolved you know I'm I remember

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listening to you Dave and and you're

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going to take this the right way you're

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a smart guy but your style of

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interviewing has evolved it's changed

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right and you are so strong today and

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and so have I and anybody that does it

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over a length of time today is show

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1802 just Fade to Black not everything

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else that I've done right that's just

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right right and if you do the math and

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I'm saying this to everybody out there

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that's that that's doing this or wants

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to do this if you do a podcast a week

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that's a heavy schedule if you do a

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podcast a week that's 52 a year

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okay it will take you 40 years to get to

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1802.

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that's that's that's you know and so

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that's what I'm talking about here and

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you will even notice it if you're doing

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it uh once a week but when you when you

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accumulate This and like you have Dave

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you have really gotten on top of your

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game

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um when you look back

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um you know at yourself uh where you

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were 10 years ago uh do you ever do you

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ever go back and listen I don't by the

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way I don't listen to my old stuff but

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do you do you go back and listen

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you know it's funny I just uh two weeks

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ago I re-released episodes from 2006 on

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my former show I took those audio

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interviews because it was just the

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fourth anniversary of the passing of

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Lorraine Warren

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and lover or hater an amazing person a

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lot of stories to share

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and I was lucky enough in my first year

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of doing my show to land Lorraine Warren

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as a guest that's pretty yeah that's

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pretty similar right and we did this

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interview

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and you can definitely hear I'm trying

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to be very MPR I'm trying to be very

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stoic in my right so my questions are

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like so Lorraine take me back to when

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you first met dad right and it's so it's

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so I it's cringy to me because I feel

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like oh God and Tim my former co-host

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would tell me he goes

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he goes it was around season three you

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started to become Dave and and the guy I

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knew started to come through and I

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remember having the aha moment of

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hearing

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the questions and the way that I spoke

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so

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deep in this let me tell you about my

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sweaty balls and how good that should

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work right and you and you're like oh my

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God this is almost painful to listen to

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and then I remember just sitting back

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one day and going okay people like me I

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don't have to work so hard at this let

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me get more out of my head and more into

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the conversation and I think I was lucky

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because I had enough basic wherewithal

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that like in that first interview with

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Lorraine

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it's one of my pride moments and it's

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one of those that I'll go back to in my

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first season 17 years ago and play

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because

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I asked questions that she stops she

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goes David

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nobody ever asks me that thank you

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and I asked her about how she and had

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met how did they get started together I

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didn't want to talk about Amityville or

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The Conjuring where did this start for

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you and she was so touched you know Ed

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had suffered his his

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um stroke and was in

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capacitated and gone really at that

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point but he was still physically here

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and

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I remember reaching out to her after

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after Ed passed and I just said I'm

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really sorry you know Lorraine I'm so

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sorry for your loss I know he was the

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love of your life

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um I'm here if you ever want to talk

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in her response back to me was I would

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love to come back on your show as a

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matter of fact you'll be the first show

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I'll come back on to

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and she reached out to me and two weeks

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after his death she said I want to come

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on and talk and I said okay I beat Coast

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to Coast I beat every other show out

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there talking to Lorraine Warren

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because I showed compassion in that

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first interview and and wanted to know

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something that I found fascinating so I

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don't know where your stance has always

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come I don't read the books I can't read

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all the books of every guest that's sent

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my way I might read bits and pieces or

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look at the topics to try to get a feel

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for it I've always been of the mind that

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I want to learn along with my listeners

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and I feel like if I know too much I

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might forget to ask the rudimentary

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questions that you as a listener who

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might have just tuned in for the first

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time tonight will feel excluded because

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you don't know what I'm talking about

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so I've tried to adjust through that

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yeah there's a certain art to that

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um I used to to try to do that you know

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read a book

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um uh to completion before I had the

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guest on and then I would have these

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notes and you know what for me honestly

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it killed the conversation and

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um I I stopped doing that now you get a

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feel for the book you can read the

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chapters and read online and get a feel

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for it but it'll kill the interview if

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you if you just know too much and you're

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asking questions that are a little bit

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too eccentric and specific to yourself

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and not in a more General sense

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um and it Narrows down I mean to me

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that's what I discovered about that and

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the the interview turns out drier

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because the guest gives these very

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specific answers that really honestly

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don't mean anything but to me and if you

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know people don't uh

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um uh stay focused right and that's

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that's my opinion but I stopped doing

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that and you know

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um Richard Dolan told me years ago

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exactly what you're saying he goes

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Church

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don't read books man I go what do you

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mean read the back cover

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that's all you gotta do what because

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yeah and then go and talk to that author

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and then you know do it that way you

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know read the book later but don't do it

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before the interview I read all the time

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that's all I do today I'm constantly

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pounding books but I won't do it before

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I have a guest on no I know that let me

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ask you let me let me turn the table on

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you for a minute Jimmy Church sure sure

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if I may so in all the years you've done

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this if you could go back to any point

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in your career as a host

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what what one topic do you wish you

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would have taken a little bit more

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seriously at the start or or wish you

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could have adjusted your thinking on

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Bigfoot

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um I was Michael Shermer I was the

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Michael Shermer of Bigfoot right for for

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a long time and where I am now I'm

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getting caught up on my learning process

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with that

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um I think that everything else uh when

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it comes to and it can be anything you

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know telekinesis or ESP or Consciousness

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or UFOs or science and life

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um uh that's an evolutionary learning

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process all right you're not gonna learn

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all that in a day but um and I've always

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had an open mind about it I didn't have

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an open mind about Bigfoot

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I didn't I made up my mind uh before

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then and

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um it took me a while to to get off the

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uh uh to get at least into the center

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of the fence right where I could fall

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either way which is where I am now and

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it took a while man it took many many

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many years

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um I went into this uh I had made up my

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mind about Bigfoot from when I was you

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know very very young

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when um and and and I'll tell you I'll

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tell you

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strange answer

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I love The Wizard of Oz

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okay so and you remember you and I are

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the same age uh the kids tonight I gotta

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know where this takes us Wizard of Oz

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time into Sasquatch come on you got me

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at the end of my edge of my seat Jimmy

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go for it edge of your seat yeah because

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um there was a time before streaming

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there was a time before cable that

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um uh when we had three TV channels for

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maybe one UHF but once a year they would

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play The Wizard of Oz all right and it

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was an event dude that was a freaking

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event uh Wizard of Oz next week and I

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would lose when it would go from black

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and white to color and the just the

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whole surreal idea behind The Wizard of

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Oz I was all in mm-hmm but that kid that

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was all in on The Wizard of Oz didn't

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buy into Bigfoot

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and it doesn't make any sense it's like

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a I'm a paradox it doesn't make any

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sense no but it does make sense right

546
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,220
because everybody has a line you know I

547
00:23:39,770 --> 00:23:37,200
learned the hard way I I had Rosemary

548
00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:39,780
Ellen giley bless her soul uh on our

549
00:23:42,529 --> 00:23:40,860
show

550
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,539
uh boy I can't believe she's been gone

551
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,919
now I think four years as well

552
00:23:48,049 --> 00:23:45,600
unbelievable but

553
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,059
I had Rosemary on and we had talked

554
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:50,880
nightmares and vampires and ghosts and

555
00:23:55,610 --> 00:23:52,860
haunted locations and then she wanted to

556
00:23:58,430 --> 00:23:55,620
come on my show to talk about fairies

557
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:58,440
and I kind of scoffed

558
00:24:02,990 --> 00:24:01,919
and I'm like really fairies and she goes

559
00:24:05,470 --> 00:24:03,000
Dave

560
00:24:08,590 --> 00:24:05,480
every night you talk about Bigfoot

561
00:24:11,770 --> 00:24:08,600
ghosts demonic possession

562
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:11,780
conspiracy theories but the concept that

563
00:24:18,350 --> 00:24:15,120
fairies which predate most ghost

564
00:24:20,930 --> 00:24:18,360
encrypted stories and people still

565
00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:20,940
believe in in foreign countries as a

566
00:24:25,610 --> 00:24:22,500
matter of fact they will reroute entire

567
00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:25,620
roads to not upset a fairy Bush or fairy

568
00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:28,200
Mound this is too far for you to believe

569
00:24:32,810 --> 00:24:30,659
and then I sat back and I said you're

570
00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:32,820
right that's why draw the line there and

571
00:24:37,130 --> 00:24:34,200
I said well you know I I think it's

572
00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:37,140
because we've it's been so sanitized and

573
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,720
whitewashed through Disney that to me a

574
00:24:42,610 --> 00:24:41,039
fairy is just

575
00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:42,620
cute little

576
00:24:48,649 --> 00:24:47,340
dress and and she was the first one to

577
00:24:50,930 --> 00:24:48,659
point out

578
00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:50,940
um what perception do you have of

579
00:24:54,289 --> 00:24:52,440
Tinkerbell and I go what do you mean she

580
00:24:56,270 --> 00:24:54,299
was a sweet little no she was horrible

581
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,280
Dave she tried to kill Wendy she

582
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:59,039
betrayed she betrayed Peter Pan she

583
00:25:01,909 --> 00:25:00,480
betrayed The Lost Boys because she

584
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:01,919
didn't get her way she was horrible

585
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:04,320
which is what fairies are if you betray

586
00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:06,600
them or they feel pissed off they can be

587
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:09,659
your worst enemy I was like oh okay so I

588
00:25:14,450 --> 00:25:11,940
got into her concept of the story and

589
00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:14,460
that really opened up my brain to I

590
00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:15,900
don't have to buy into what you're

591
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:16,860
selling

592
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:19,200
but I sure like the sales pitch and let

593
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:20,640
me hear it because maybe at the end of

594
00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:22,020
this conversation

595
00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:25,140
maybe maybe I'll be a little bit more

596
00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:28,260
open to that concept and I was and I

597
00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:29,880
think it's fascinating I love that

598
00:25:33,049 --> 00:25:31,500
element

599
00:25:34,970 --> 00:25:33,059
um you know do we have time before a

600
00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:34,980
quick break here or no yeah no I yeah

601
00:25:39,769 --> 00:25:37,500
continue okay I want to stay on the

602
00:25:42,649 --> 00:25:39,779
fairies for a second sure right I was

603
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:42,659
filming uh scenes for a movie uh this

604
00:25:48,769 --> 00:25:46,799
week right so I'm on set and uh I don't

605
00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:48,779
want to give anything away so I'm not

606
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,020
going to do that but so uh I'm being

607
00:25:56,029 --> 00:25:54,240
interviewed and one of the you know so

608
00:25:58,010 --> 00:25:56,039
tell us something about you Jimmy that

609
00:26:02,570 --> 00:25:58,020
we don't know whatever I was like

610
00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:05,090
I caught Everybody by surprise and I

611
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,900
watched the whole room you know like

612
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,159
what

613
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,039
and I said yeah big tough Rough and

614
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,440
Tumble punch you in the throat Jimmy

615
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:16,080
Church believes in fairies

616
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:17,760
fairies are real

617
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:22,320
so there you go and I and yeah it's and

618
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:26,940
I if I knew that Dave I totally get it

619
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,200
by me saying that I open up the door to

620
00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:33,600
all of the memes and criticism and jokes

621
00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:36,779
out there I don't care right my

622
00:26:41,870 --> 00:26:38,460
experience and and that's where I'm at

623
00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:41,880
man I'm a piece of clay I'm a piece of

624
00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:45,240
clay that's that's it and I I would have

625
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:48,600
missed some fascinating shows had I

626
00:26:52,669 --> 00:26:50,820
turned a blind eye because it just

627
00:26:54,769 --> 00:26:52,679
didn't make sense to me and it was so

628
00:26:57,289 --> 00:26:54,779
ridiculous I had a one of my favorite

629
00:26:59,149 --> 00:26:57,299
guests way back in the day this woman I

630
00:27:03,289 --> 00:26:59,159
got her press release it was in the

631
00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:03,299
reporter it was uh the rtir uh catalog

632
00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:06,120
for radio show hosts you know and the

633
00:27:13,310 --> 00:27:09,659
headline was woman confronts Satan face

634
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:13,320
to face and I'm like what I and this

635
00:27:17,149 --> 00:27:14,100
woman

636
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,159
she believes she dated and met the

637
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,679
physical incarnation of Satan and it was

638
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,600
just this beautifully written blurb I

639
00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:22,799
mean it's like three sentences and I'm

640
00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:24,779
like I gotta have this woman on my show

641
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,000
and I call her up and I have her on the

642
00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:29,840
show and it was the most ludicrous

643
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,059
insane story but it was so Charming

644
00:27:38,029 --> 00:27:35,279
because she believed every bit of it but

645
00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:38,039
she could laugh along with me and I go

646
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,620
so all right

647
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:42,240
um Margaret

648
00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:44,940
how exactly did you meet the devil she

649
00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:46,980
goes I love to dance Dave oh I'm a

650
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,460
dancer ballroom dance salsa I love to

651
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:52,320
dance so I was looking at the Penny

652
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,140
Saver so for those of you that are not

653
00:27:58,730 --> 00:27:57,360
50 years old or older it was a little

654
00:28:00,529 --> 00:27:58,740
free magazine you need to get at your

655
00:28:03,289 --> 00:28:00,539
grocery store that would talk about

656
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:03,299
garage sales coming up and you could put

657
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,460
in little personal ads to meet somebody

658
00:28:09,049 --> 00:28:07,440
but there was an ad for this gentleman

659
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,059
looking for a dance partner and she

660
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:11,279
responded and I remember making the joke

661
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,720
I said well it's good to know in a down

662
00:28:16,510 --> 00:28:14,880
economy even the Prince of Darkness has

663
00:28:19,730 --> 00:28:16,520
to go to the Pennysaver to get a date

664
00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:19,740
and she laughed and we we engaged in

665
00:28:24,649 --> 00:28:22,200
this conversation and it was complete

666
00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:24,659
lunacy now it might not be such a

667
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:26,279
surprise for you to find out that the

668
00:28:30,010 --> 00:28:28,200
devil owns a double wide trailer in

669
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,020
Arkansas

670
00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:33,120
where where he keeps his concubines in

671
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:34,679
two smaller trailers on the same

672
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,140
property because of course Arkansas

673
00:28:42,049 --> 00:28:40,080
right why not that seems like as good a

674
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,059
place as any for the devil to live and

675
00:28:48,529 --> 00:28:44,640
we had such a genuine

676
00:28:49,490 --> 00:28:48,539
fun conversation she got how absurd it

677
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:49,500
sounded

678
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,010
so I really enjoyed that conversation

679
00:29:00,169 --> 00:28:57,120
but the absurdists

680
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,179
you know I I grew up fascinated

681
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:02,159
um by Elvis Presley and I remember

682
00:29:06,769 --> 00:29:04,620
getting the book by Gail Brewer Giorgio

683
00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:06,779
that came with a cassette

684
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:08,100
and it was

685
00:29:11,930 --> 00:29:10,380
Elvis alive

686
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,940
and I listened to that cassette and I

687
00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:13,679
read the book and she had audio

688
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,140
recordings of Elvis after his death

689
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:18,799
and I was like what

690
00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:22,260
mind blown so as an adult when I'm

691
00:29:26,269 --> 00:29:24,360
hosting my show I reach out to Gail

692
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,279
Brewer Giorgio and she agrees to come on

693
00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:29,520
my show and she sends me an envelope

694
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,980
that's like as thick as War and Peace

695
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:33,840
all this evidence she's collected over

696
00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:34,740
the years

697
00:29:40,690 --> 00:29:36,960
and there's some great stuff in there

698
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:40,700
Jimmy there's a eyewitness affidavit

699
00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:43,500
signed by Elvis these are photocopies

700
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:46,380
signed by Elvis like a month after his

701
00:29:49,730 --> 00:29:47,220
death

702
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,740
that helped in bringing down this crime

703
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:51,360
ring

704
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,220
it was signed a month after his death

705
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:55,200
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right so anyway

706
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:57,539
I buy into the story I love it right and

707
00:30:01,430 --> 00:30:00,000
somebody reaches out to me and they go

708
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:01,440
you got it you know Michael Jackson

709
00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:03,720
faked his death and I'm like oh come on

710
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,340
and they're like go read This Woman's

711
00:30:11,149 --> 00:30:07,440
website and it's this horrible

712
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,159
it's mid 2000s and the website looks

713
00:30:15,470 --> 00:30:13,679
like it was made in 98 and it's just

714
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:15,480
horribly maintained and built and I'm

715
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:16,919
watching it I'm looking at it I'm like

716
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,080
okay so I reach out to this woman and I

717
00:30:22,669 --> 00:30:20,880
have her on the show and she's into it

718
00:30:25,549 --> 00:30:22,679
man full scale like the Beatles album

719
00:30:27,970 --> 00:30:25,559
covers she's breaking down every clue

720
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:27,980
Michael's left behind and it's hard to

721
00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:30,539
pass on it like the the Escape album

722
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:32,700
that came out after his death is called

723
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:35,520
escape and there's like the universe

724
00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:37,500
behind him and he's in this like black

725
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:39,960
body bag looking thing as he's peering

726
00:30:44,049 --> 00:30:42,899
out at you you're like oh my God yes I

727
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,059
totally see what you're talking about

728
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,279
she's friends with Michael he calls her

729
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:49,679
on the phone oh sure so we're just

730
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:52,140
having this conversation Jimmy she texts

731
00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:52,980
me

732
00:30:59,570 --> 00:30:55,860
he wants to call into your show

733
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,580
I'm like yes let's go or the number I

734
00:31:03,649 --> 00:31:01,200
look over and my producers on the phone

735
00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:03,659
and it gives this look and hangs up the

736
00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:05,640
phone and I go who was that he goes some

737
00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:08,520
idiot call himself Peter Pan I go he's

738
00:31:12,830 --> 00:31:10,440
calling back you put him through and

739
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,840
he's like what I go put him through and

740
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,120
I'm watching the live chat right at the

741
00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:17,760
time and I bring this guy on this guy's

742
00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:19,020
spot on his Michael Jackson

743
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,860
impersonation Jimmy is so spot-on it's

744
00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:24,559
unbelievable

745
00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:27,480
radio right we have this conversation

746
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:29,340
and I'm watching the chat room half the

747
00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:30,899
chat room

748
00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:34,200
is oh my God Michael Jackson's alive the

749
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,600
other half is like you're idiots what's

750
00:31:42,529 --> 00:31:39,120
wrong with you this is obviously a fake

751
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:42,539
but I love the conversation and how it

752
00:31:46,909 --> 00:31:44,460
sparked people

753
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:46,919
and I I do this interview as I'm talking

754
00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:49,140
to Michael and I refuse to play his game

755
00:31:53,090 --> 00:31:50,580
I'm like I'm not going to call you Peter

756
00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:53,100
Pan because if you are

757
00:31:57,529 --> 00:31:55,740
who you're portraying yourself to be I

758
00:31:59,389 --> 00:31:57,539
just want to say this aside from all of

759
00:32:01,549 --> 00:31:59,399
the controversy in your life thank you

760
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:01,559
for the Amazing Music you've you opened

761
00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:03,299
up my daughter to music in a way I never

762
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:05,100
knew was possible my daughter was very

763
00:32:09,409 --> 00:32:07,020
young when Michael died and she was

764
00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:09,419
deeply impacted by his death so I I

765
00:32:12,590 --> 00:32:11,159
thanked him for that and I had this kind

766
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:12,600
of but I was tough on him too I'm like

767
00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:15,600
and I I do need to ask you

768
00:32:19,549 --> 00:32:17,220
um I appreciate you calling in tonight

769
00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:19,559
but why your daughter just attempted

770
00:32:23,690 --> 00:32:21,419
suicide two days ago why are you calling

771
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:23,700
into my radio show

772
00:32:27,409 --> 00:32:25,260
and there's this kind of pregnant pause

773
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:27,419
and parole the woman that brought him on

774
00:32:30,590 --> 00:32:28,919
says you know things aren't always as

775
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:30,600
they seem

776
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:33,600
um you know Paris is going through

777
00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:34,740
something she didn't really try to

778
00:32:39,649 --> 00:32:37,260
commit suicide it's media's you know

779
00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:39,659
blowing it up and they actually had

780
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:43,260
audio of Dr Conrad Murray leaving a

781
00:32:47,149 --> 00:32:46,140
voicemail to Paris which again makes you

782
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,159
think

783
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:49,200
this is not the voicemail of a man who

784
00:32:54,409 --> 00:32:52,440
killed somebody's father it was Bonkers

785
00:32:57,289 --> 00:32:54,419
and I'm talking to Michael and the thing

786
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,299
was at the end of it all I go

787
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,760
all right I've watched the chat room

788
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:01,440
I've seen both sides of this

789
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:02,940
conversation and every night you tune

790
00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:05,460
into the show for escapism you tune in

791
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:07,020
to hear about Bigfoot and ghosts and

792
00:33:12,289 --> 00:33:10,559
fairies and and alien abductions

793
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:12,299
but the concept that one of the richest

794
00:33:16,009 --> 00:33:14,340
and most eccentric men in the world

795
00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:16,019
might have faked his death to try to

796
00:33:21,409 --> 00:33:18,360
have a normal life that's beyond your

797
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:21,419
grasp of reality you realize how absurd

798
00:33:25,789 --> 00:33:23,220
that is right that's probably more

799
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,799
believable than Bigfoot

800
00:33:30,110 --> 00:33:27,360
but

801
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,120
let's play the what if game

802
00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:32,159
because 10 years from now what if

803
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:35,340
Michael does prove that he's still alive

804
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:37,559
and you were all turned in that one

805
00:33:42,649 --> 00:33:39,960
night right right small little Minnesota

806
00:33:45,169 --> 00:33:42,659
radio station got a phone call and the

807
00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:45,179
audience went Bonkers and I loved it and

808
00:33:47,389 --> 00:33:46,440
that was the end of the episode and I

809
00:33:49,009 --> 00:33:47,399
thought I was going to take heat and

810
00:33:51,889 --> 00:33:49,019
abuse people loved it because it became

811
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:51,899
theater of the mind and it's not the men

812
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:55,260
yeah I had a caller once

813
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:57,360
um I'm gonna get back to Michael uh but

814
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:00,480
anyway I had a caller alive on the air

815
00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:03,720
said he was the ghost of John Lennon

816
00:34:09,649 --> 00:34:07,260
right and it dude it was awesome he

817
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,659
called back a couple of times over the

818
00:34:15,530 --> 00:34:11,760
year and it never had the magic of that

819
00:34:16,669 --> 00:34:15,540
first night yeah man it was it was a lot

820
00:34:20,089 --> 00:34:16,679
of fun

821
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:20,099
um have you seen uh the video where

822
00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:23,399
Michael Jackson rents like a Ralph's

823
00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:26,460
Supermarket and hires a bunch of actors

824
00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:29,700
to act like Shoppers so he could go in

825
00:34:36,070 --> 00:34:32,280
and shop and act normal have you seen

826
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,080
that video no dude it's crazy it's crazy

827
00:34:42,050 --> 00:34:38,879
just so he could know what it's like to

828
00:34:44,510 --> 00:34:42,060
push a shopping cart and so everybody in

829
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:44,520
the store in the video it's crazy dude

830
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:47,760
it's nuts and and and everybody in there

831
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:50,580
is a paid actor

832
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:52,560
acting like they're shopping with

833
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:55,379
shopping carts and so he just goes

834
00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:59,040
through and he shops it's like that so

835
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,800
yeah I could see him uh pulling up have

836
00:35:07,370 --> 00:35:04,320
you seen uh speaking of Elvis

837
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:07,380
have you seen Daisy Jones in the six

838
00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:12,480
no okay you know who Riley Keough is yes

839
00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:14,220
yeah that's uh Elvis's granddaughter

840
00:35:19,490 --> 00:35:17,820
right dude so go and watch it I think

841
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:19,500
it's HBO

842
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:25,320
maybe no oh my mighty No it might even

843
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:26,760
be Amazon

844
00:35:34,849 --> 00:35:30,000
okay but go and watch it

845
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:34,859
um it's an amazing but dude and so first

846
00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:37,440
off she's a great musician she's a great

847
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:40,980
actor and and all of that but you cannot

848
00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:43,400
get away from her voice and her eyes

849
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,160
dude it's just it's it's it's unreal

850
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:49,440
it's spellbinding so go and check out

851
00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:51,960
Daisy Jones and the six all right we'll

852
00:35:57,050 --> 00:35:55,260
do on Pitch what is it about now you

853
00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:57,060
brought up

854
00:36:01,310 --> 00:35:58,619
um and I don't want to get morose here

855
00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:01,320
but you brought up a Michael Jackson

856
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:04,700
dying and how it affected your daughter

857
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:07,920
isn't this like a dilemma that is is

858
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,040
kind of worldwide now where because of

859
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:14,160
social media because of MTV Cribs right

860
00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:19,280
and whatever that that we are inside of

861
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:23,640
musicians and stars and and and actors

862
00:36:30,410 --> 00:36:26,280
whatever it may be

863
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,420
um we are now feeling like we're all

864
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:32,400
friends and we're a part of their lives

865
00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:35,760
and when we lose somebody now it affects

866
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:37,560
us emotionally like it never did in the

867
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,960
past do you see that in your daughter I

868
00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:42,240
know I did when David Bowie died my my

869
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,480
daughter Nicole just completely lost it

870
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:47,760
well you and I kind of touched on this

871
00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:49,740
before the show and I've been thinking

872
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,480
about it see the difference for me is

873
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,520
like all right when John Ritter died

874
00:36:58,930 --> 00:36:55,440
that really hit me

875
00:37:01,250 --> 00:36:58,940
and it was you know what was it the

876
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:01,260
late 90s

877
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:03,900
right maybe very early 2000s he passed

878
00:37:11,210 --> 00:37:07,200
away and the internet wasn't what it is

879
00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:11,220
today and there wasn't you know so it

880
00:37:13,849 --> 00:37:12,540
wasn't like I felt like I was a part of

881
00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:13,859
his life but he had been a part of my

882
00:37:18,349 --> 00:37:16,740
life since the 70s right and I watched

883
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:18,359
all the shows and all the movies and I

884
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:19,260
enjoyed

885
00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:21,000
I'm sorry I have a high cat walking

886
00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:22,619
around here just tripping balls right

887
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,599
now so if you hear that howling in the

888
00:37:28,849 --> 00:37:26,460
background Mr mittens

889
00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:28,859
no matter where I hide the catnip he

890
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:30,599
finds it man and he's

891
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:33,720
I'm all choked up Dad where are you uh

892
00:37:37,790 --> 00:37:36,300
anyway so that hit me in the fields in a

893
00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:37,800
way that I couldn't explain and I was

894
00:37:42,349 --> 00:37:39,900
really surprised by it it was so sudden

895
00:37:44,329 --> 00:37:42,359
and just this integral part of my life

896
00:37:46,609 --> 00:37:44,339
this comedic

897
00:37:49,609 --> 00:37:46,619
genius was gone

898
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:49,619
and then I thought well

899
00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:51,660
you know it's not always just about the

900
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:53,880
accessibility my daughter was I think

901
00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:56,820
four or five when Michael died

902
00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:00,839
I want to say she was maybe four but she

903
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:03,300
loved the music music transcends

904
00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:05,400
everything else

905
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:07,980
it can connect people in ways that I I

906
00:38:12,890 --> 00:38:09,960
couldn't explain why this little girl

907
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:12,900
loved his music so much children

908
00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:15,720
loved like he was the pied flipping

909
00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:18,359
Piper he there's something about his

910
00:38:23,390 --> 00:38:21,060
music that transcends Age religion race

911
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,400
right right and brings people together

912
00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:25,920
and she was so

913
00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:29,460
struck she was processing

914
00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:31,380
I remember calling my ex-wife at the

915
00:38:35,089 --> 00:38:33,720
time and I go did you hear the news and

916
00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:35,099
she's in the car she goes no what and I

917
00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:36,900
go Michael Jackson died she goes no way

918
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:38,940
and I go how do you think pacey's gonna

919
00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:41,160
react she goes she's too young to know

920
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:43,079
she goes are you sure and I'm going yeah

921
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:45,180
she turns on the radio and they make the

922
00:38:48,430 --> 00:38:47,160
announcement and my daughter starts

923
00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:48,440
howling

924
00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:52,380
no no no she could grasp at that age

925
00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:54,420
what death meant

926
00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:56,579
and it just killed her and every place

927
00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:58,500
we go I remember that weekend we went to

928
00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:00,599
the band show we were watching this I

929
00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:01,980
think they're called Paperback Writer

930
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,260
they were a Beatles cover band at the

931
00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:06,000
park by her house and they had these

932
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:08,700
girls in go-go boots and you know uh

933
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,760
Union Jack dresses and stuff up on stage

934
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,440
and they were letting kids come up and

935
00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:14,880
my daughter was up dancing with them and

936
00:39:18,050 --> 00:39:16,380
she kept grabbing all this the dancers

937
00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:18,060
and talking to them about Michael she's

938
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:20,280
like did you know Michael Jackson died

939
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,440
and she just needed to talk to somebody

940
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:25,200
about it she it she just couldn't

941
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:28,079
understand it so I think there's in the

942
00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:30,420
music world it's one thing because music

943
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,520
does strike us in a way and I know you

944
00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:34,560
said with Gordon Lightfoot it really

945
00:39:39,890 --> 00:39:37,260
hits you today and I I'm on the other

946
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,900
side thinking I know three songs yeah

947
00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:42,000
it's interesting what strikes people

948
00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:44,280
right if Bruce Springsteen died tomorrow

949
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:46,500
man I'd be in a bad place for a while

950
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,400
right uh Davey Jones died in 2012 and I

951
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,079
remember hearing the news at work and I

952
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:54,000
sat down in my chair

953
00:39:58,730 --> 00:39:57,060
and I just kind of I void it out there

954
00:40:02,030 --> 00:39:58,740
was such a big part of my childhood the

955
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:02,040
monkeys and I watched them and their

956
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,200
comedy and music was so integral to me

957
00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:06,720
and then I saw their tours from their

958
00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:09,420
20th anniversary on and I just took my

959
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:11,640
family to go see them and I thought it

960
00:40:14,810 --> 00:40:13,020
was so cute they performed at the

961
00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:14,820
Minnesota state zoo at the Band Shell so

962
00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:16,920
I get to see the monkeys at the zoo with

963
00:40:21,230 --> 00:40:19,380
my family right and and then like a year

964
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:21,240
or two later Davey's gone and it was

965
00:40:26,569 --> 00:40:22,560
just

966
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:26,579
you do feel this kinship to people in

967
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:29,820
celebrity that and now you're right it

968
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,740
has gotten bigger and broader because

969
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,079
Dave and Jimmy are on the internet every

970
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:36,480
night talking and letting you in on our

971
00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:39,180
Our Lives yeah that's right it's a

972
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,980
one-way thing though we've you know all

973
00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:42,720
these great people in your chat you know

974
00:40:49,069 --> 00:40:45,480
Stacy F and Phillip Swain and and uh

975
00:40:50,510 --> 00:40:49,079
Hadley and Kim and and Ken but you don't

976
00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:50,520
know them

977
00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:52,440
and then you see them out somewhere and

978
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:53,940
then they're like it's me Ken and you're

979
00:40:59,390 --> 00:40:57,119
like can who from your chat and then

980
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,400
they get like almost offended that you

981
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,200
don't know and you're like buddy please

982
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,640
don't be offended remember you're

983
00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:04,560
watching me I'm not watching you I'm

984
00:41:08,450 --> 00:41:06,359
sharing my stories you're not sharing

985
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,460
yours I don't know who you are and I'm

986
00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:10,800
sorry you know and you kind of feel I

987
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:12,900
always feel bad for people that I I feel

988
00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:15,180
like I wound them because I don't but

989
00:41:19,609 --> 00:41:17,400
we're friends on Facebook I'm like

990
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:19,619
five thousand friends and 38 000

991
00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:21,780
followers I don't know you all I'm sorry

992
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:24,540
but we we talked three years ago we

993
00:41:29,630 --> 00:41:26,940
exchanged about and I'm like so it it

994
00:41:31,849 --> 00:41:29,640
has social media has created a newer

995
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:31,859
Pathway to

996
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:34,140
people in the public eye

997
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:36,300
having a low-level celebrity like me

998
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:40,560
it's a very direct one and you know

999
00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:43,980
today it doesn't matter doesn't matter

1000
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,420
uh who you uh uh are interested in or

1001
00:41:53,870 --> 00:41:50,880
have fun with or enjoy or whatever but

1002
00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:53,880
there they are Man live streaming hey

1003
00:42:02,410 --> 00:41:57,480
right and and good thing you are a part

1004
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:02,420
of their world right and uh we

1005
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,280
we haven't figured out how to deal with

1006
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:08,160
that I think that social media has come

1007
00:42:15,530 --> 00:42:12,180
on so quickly and live streaming and and

1008
00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:15,540
people that you know they say you know

1009
00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:18,180
um an influencer an influencer

1010
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:19,560
influencer

1011
00:42:26,569 --> 00:42:23,640
um I don't think that we have the

1012
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:26,579
capacity right now to understand the

1013
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,160
ramifications you know what what

1014
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,680
ultimately will this mean to us later

1015
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:34,079
emotionally because we just jumped into

1016
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:36,540
to it with both feet you know we have

1017
00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:39,000
there's no studies done on the impact of

1018
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,400
social media right right and we're too

1019
00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:43,920
deep into to care anymore but it's it

1020
00:42:47,630 --> 00:42:46,200
it's over we're we're up to here that's

1021
00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:47,640
it that's it we're already at the deep

1022
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:51,240
end of the pool and uh you can't fix it

1023
00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:52,980
I just saw and I'm trying to remember

1024
00:42:57,470 --> 00:42:55,380
what it was I just saw an interview

1025
00:42:59,630 --> 00:42:57,480
um or a documentary but they make this

1026
00:43:01,609 --> 00:42:59,640
fascinating comment oh it was the Brooke

1027
00:43:03,530 --> 00:43:01,619
Shields interview pretty baby and it was

1028
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,540
a documentary about her life

1029
00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:05,520
and it's like you have to realize how

1030
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,240
big Brooke Shields was she lived in an

1031
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:11,280
era where she was

1032
00:43:18,109 --> 00:43:13,980
it was like Michael Jackson Brooke

1033
00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:18,119
Shields a hand you know Bruce Willis you

1034
00:43:22,010 --> 00:43:19,980
know uh uh Sylvester Stallone

1035
00:43:24,730 --> 00:43:22,020
Schwarzenegger these were your

1036
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:24,740
celebrities there were maybe like 30

1037
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,839
celebrities in the world

1038
00:43:31,849 --> 00:43:29,760
then there were other actors and

1039
00:43:33,290 --> 00:43:31,859
actresses and musicians but there were

1040
00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:33,300
30 people that encompassed what

1041
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,119
celebrity is now

1042
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:39,359
there are celebrities you and I have

1043
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:42,480
never heard of that are massive their

1044
00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:45,599
reaches far beyond Brook Shields and you

1045
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,400
and I have no clue who this person is

1046
00:43:50,930 --> 00:43:49,200
right right and it's so interesting that

1047
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:50,940
we live in a world where Fame is an

1048
00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:53,760
interesting New Deal and you said you

1049
00:43:59,630 --> 00:43:57,180
can't just plug a USB mic in and you can

1050
00:44:01,250 --> 00:43:59,640
and people are doing it and it's it's so

1051
00:44:04,430 --> 00:44:01,260
strange right I've been in this business

1052
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,440
18 years and I I feel like at times I'm

1053
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:06,839
struggling to maintain and remain

1054
00:44:13,250 --> 00:44:09,780
relevant and then some chucklehead plugs

1055
00:44:15,370 --> 00:44:13,260
in his USB microphone and he's like hey

1056
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,380
yeah my buddy's gonna

1057
00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:18,000
[Applause]

1058
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:19,859
guards and they're getting 22 million

1059
00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:22,319
views yeah yeah yeah what am I missing

1060
00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:24,900
what is the what's the lightning in the

1061
00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:26,760
bottle and people

1062
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:28,920
it's I remember anything wrong it's just

1063
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:30,540
that everybody can find what they're

1064
00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:32,760
attracted to Now Dave my daughter comes

1065
00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:34,920
home this is how this is how I'm gonna

1066
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:37,500
offend half of my audience right now my

1067
00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:39,000
daughter comes home she goes I got the

1068
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:41,819
tickets I got the tickets I said cool

1069
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:45,839
there were 1200 each I got two

1070
00:44:53,290 --> 00:44:50,700
cool for who the weekend

1071
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:53,300
I go

1072
00:44:58,329 --> 00:44:56,160
the weekend

1073
00:45:03,470 --> 00:44:58,339
how much did you pay for these tickets

1074
00:45:07,329 --> 00:45:03,480
yeah 1200 what it's the weekend I can't

1075
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,339
remember and I I and and that was like

1076
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,319
four years ago and when it was seriously

1077
00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:12,960
like for somebody like me I had never

1078
00:45:20,089 --> 00:45:17,160
heard of the weekend today's kind of a

1079
00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:20,099
name out there and down below us and the

1080
00:45:25,130 --> 00:45:22,380
other Generations they they get I did

1081
00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:25,140
I'd never heard of them you know and

1082
00:45:30,290 --> 00:45:27,000
you're looking at it you go and you see

1083
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,300
a video uh these days of just like

1084
00:45:34,250 --> 00:45:32,400
you're saying a couple of dudes stepping

1085
00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:34,260
off a private jet with bags full of

1086
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:35,579
hundred dollar bills and they're

1087
00:45:40,609 --> 00:45:39,420
throwing it around and and who who are

1088
00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:40,619
these guys

1089
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:42,540
but it's just like you're saying Dave

1090
00:45:48,770 --> 00:45:45,000
that there are segments of celebrity

1091
00:45:50,930 --> 00:45:48,780
that is so big where it's bigger than

1092
00:45:52,730 --> 00:45:50,940
Brooke Shields being on the cover of

1093
00:45:55,849 --> 00:45:52,740
every magazine for like three years

1094
00:46:00,109 --> 00:45:55,859
straight every single week she was on

1095
00:46:03,050 --> 00:46:00,119
the cover of every magazine period and

1096
00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:03,060
her celebrity is not as big as the minor

1097
00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:05,400
celebrities today it's crazy it's crazy

1098
00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:07,980
yeah yeah it's funny you know I get to

1099
00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:09,480
do all these conventions around the

1100
00:46:14,450 --> 00:46:11,640
world and I go to things like Galaxy con

1101
00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:14,460
and Wizard World and and and you're

1102
00:46:20,329 --> 00:46:16,740
around real celebrities right I'm around

1103
00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:20,339
John Cleese and the kids in the hall and

1104
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,119
uh Billy D Williams and just names it to

1105
00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:27,359
you and I are like what this is what

1106
00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:30,420
this is amazing and then

1107
00:46:33,230 --> 00:46:31,260
um

1108
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,240
I look and I've got a line of people at

1109
00:46:37,609 --> 00:46:35,040
my table and

1110
00:46:41,569 --> 00:46:37,619
some real celebrity is looking at me

1111
00:46:44,329 --> 00:46:41,579
like and you are who and you're doing

1112
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,339
what and then I look down the row and

1113
00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:46,319
then I'm feeling kind of look at this

1114
00:46:52,010 --> 00:46:48,839
I've got a line of people and this actor

1115
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:52,020
has four and then I get humbled real

1116
00:46:54,290 --> 00:46:53,520
quick when I look across and there's a

1117
00:46:57,050 --> 00:46:54,300
girl

1118
00:47:00,770 --> 00:46:57,060
dressed like a character from Zelda

1119
00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:00,780
the video game she's not even

1120
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:03,480
the voice of Zelda she just dresses like

1121
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,560
Zelda

1122
00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:06,480
and she's got a line wrapped around the

1123
00:47:09,530 --> 00:47:07,980
building yeah yeah and she's selling

1124
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,540
autographs at 50 bucks a piece and

1125
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:10,800
you're like

1126
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,160
yeah it's not even like sexy Zelda she

1127
00:47:21,950 --> 00:47:17,520
looks like a dot matrix Zelda what is

1128
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:21,960
the what what is what and it's just so

1129
00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:27,770
what celebrity is at this point and I

1130
00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:29,099
love it I love the fact that you can go

1131
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:31,260
and mingle about and and people have

1132
00:47:36,050 --> 00:47:33,780
these feelings and you know I was

1133
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:36,060
sitting at this table with this one uh

1134
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:38,700
online influencer and her father uh

1135
00:47:44,510 --> 00:47:42,000
freckled Zelda is her name right and uh

1136
00:47:48,109 --> 00:47:44,520
she's a sweetheart and she's funny and

1137
00:47:51,050 --> 00:47:48,119
she's irreverent and but she was very

1138
00:47:53,450 --> 00:47:51,060
um she's a celebrity and she had a crazy

1139
00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:53,460
long line and then she goes and what do

1140
00:47:58,490 --> 00:47:55,380
you do and I said I'm a paranormal guy

1141
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:58,500
I've been on that and her father goes oh

1142
00:48:02,690 --> 00:48:00,180
my God you used to be on Coast to Coast

1143
00:48:04,370 --> 00:48:02,700
AM I recognize your voice and I'm like

1144
00:48:06,290 --> 00:48:04,380
yeah I hosted Coast for about five years

1145
00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:06,300
and he's like dude we loved when you

1146
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:07,380
were on you were like one of our

1147
00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:08,520
favorite hosts I'm like oh that's

1148
00:48:12,349 --> 00:48:10,980
awesome and she's like I remember you we

1149
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:12,359
used to sit in my dad's car and listen

1150
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:14,520
I'm like oh that's so cool and all of a

1151
00:48:18,589 --> 00:48:16,260
sudden a light tripped on for them even

1152
00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:18,599
who you know what where you fit in and

1153
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:20,520
it's so funny that you're like oh I

1154
00:48:26,329 --> 00:48:23,880
guess to them I'm somebody right to

1155
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:26,339
other people but how I gotta ask you

1156
00:48:30,530 --> 00:48:28,020
Jimmy you go to a big conference right

1157
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,540
you go do some there's five thousand ten

1158
00:48:33,770 --> 00:48:32,160
thousand people in attendance they want

1159
00:48:36,109 --> 00:48:33,780
to meet you take pictures with you get

1160
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,119
autographs from you everything they're

1161
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:38,640
listening hanging on your every word and

1162
00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:39,839
then you go home and got to take the

1163
00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:41,579
garbage out and pick up dog poop in the

1164
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,599
front yard and your kids aren't

1165
00:48:46,130 --> 00:48:44,640
listening to you is that a weird moment

1166
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,140
for you because it is for me all the

1167
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:48,480
time it's every day and then it's that

1168
00:48:52,010 --> 00:48:50,520
moment at the conference it's that

1169
00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:52,020
moment at the conference somebody comes

1170
00:48:55,609 --> 00:48:53,400
yeah I remember you on Coast to Coast

1171
00:48:58,670 --> 00:48:55,619
yeah you you weren't as good as that

1172
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,680
Trader guy though yeah and I hear that a

1173
00:49:03,170 --> 00:49:01,200
bitter pill yeah I gotta take it you

1174
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,180
know I know it's coming you know how you

1175
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,040
brace for the slap before you get it

1176
00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:07,680
it's like that it's just like I I feel

1177
00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:10,980
it coming but is is it speaking of death

1178
00:49:18,410 --> 00:49:15,000
though because of the way that the media

1179
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:18,420
and and the internet and the way that it

1180
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:20,000
runs today

1181
00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:23,339
death isn't any more common than it was

1182
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:26,819
in the past decades are the same right

1183
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:30,900
is it going to seem more extreme because

1184
00:49:35,569 --> 00:49:34,140
we are exposed to so much more and you

1185
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:35,579
know what I think it is

1186
00:49:40,990 --> 00:49:38,220
it's the unity of community because

1187
00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:41,000
before

1188
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,900
Entertainment Tonight we're here to

1189
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:45,359
report the news Michael Douglas has

1190
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,800
passed away and you're at home and

1191
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,720
you're like oh man

1192
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,119
that's so sad he didn't really focus I'm

1193
00:49:55,309 --> 00:49:52,800
just giving an example and you're like

1194
00:49:57,230 --> 00:49:55,319
wow and then they're on to the next

1195
00:49:59,230 --> 00:49:57,240
story and that's the end of your morning

1196
00:50:02,450 --> 00:49:59,240
right now

1197
00:50:05,329 --> 00:50:02,460
uh now Gordon Lightfoot dies

1198
00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:05,339
and I can go online and be like wow guys

1199
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:08,280
Gordon Lightfoot died you know his music

1200
00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:11,819
was so important to me and then 500

1201
00:50:15,890 --> 00:50:13,980
other people chime in oh I know exactly

1202
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:15,900
how you feel I love I've seen Gordon

1203
00:50:22,550 --> 00:50:18,900
Lightfoot 45 times in concert I did so

1204
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:22,560
now we this Unity of community so

1205
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,440
it feels more impactful and now like my

1206
00:50:30,109 --> 00:50:27,599
daughter was scrambling to find somebody

1207
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:30,119
she could talk to about this to process

1208
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:32,280
her feelings now there's a community

1209
00:50:37,250 --> 00:50:35,280
online and if I post about a death I

1210
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:37,260
know it's good for at least 400 comments

1211
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:38,640
because people are gonna

1212
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:41,220
a want to give me support b share their

1213
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,400
own memories C uh talk about something

1214
00:50:48,829 --> 00:50:46,319
that was equally as important to them so

1215
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,839
it's it's that I think that brings

1216
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:50,400
people out of the woodwork to talk about

1217
00:50:54,349 --> 00:50:52,760
things like death now

1218
00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:54,359
the

1219
00:50:59,210 --> 00:50:57,420
um I went to go see I'm so glad you

1220
00:51:03,470 --> 00:50:59,220
brought this up

1221
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,480
um we lost some of the big ones lately

1222
00:51:09,530 --> 00:51:05,280
and I'm talking about Eddie Van Halen

1223
00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:09,540
Right and uh of course Bowie and and the

1224
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:12,660
list is really really long but but Glenn

1225
00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:15,660
Frey was like a punch in the gut uh for

1226
00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:18,660
me and I went to go see the Eagles a few

1227
00:51:23,569 --> 00:51:21,540
weeks ago and uh the Hotel California

1228
00:51:25,849 --> 00:51:23,579
tour they played the whole album in

1229
00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:25,859
order it's that dude is pretty epic

1230
00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:29,220
actually I was in the fifth row and uh

1231
00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:31,380
and they brought on Deacon fry

1232
00:51:37,609 --> 00:51:34,200
and so he played you know Glenn Frey's

1233
00:51:40,130 --> 00:51:37,619
son and he he was he played about half

1234
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:40,140
the set I'm gonna nah I don't know I

1235
00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:41,599
don't know but he did

1236
00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:45,660
uh some of the songs

1237
00:51:50,450 --> 00:51:48,359
um what's his name uh Vince Gill isn't

1238
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,460
it yeah Vince Gill who was amazing by

1239
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:52,559
the way I'm gonna go on the record right

1240
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,160
now and say that that dude uh really

1241
00:52:02,290 --> 00:51:58,559
completed the band it's very hard to do

1242
00:52:06,650 --> 00:52:02,300
without uh Glenn Frey so I'm deacon

1243
00:52:09,770 --> 00:52:06,660
Deacon's a good kid man and and it's got

1244
00:52:12,650 --> 00:52:09,780
to be tough to go in and you know fill

1245
00:52:15,710 --> 00:52:12,660
the shoes of of your father you know who

1246
00:52:19,010 --> 00:52:15,720
is no longer in the band and and and for

1247
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:19,020
me it was kind of

1248
00:52:24,049 --> 00:52:21,059
um and Deacon's a great kid you can tell

1249
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,059
he's very talented but it kind of took

1250
00:52:29,870 --> 00:52:26,640
away I was thinking about Glenn Frey

1251
00:52:31,609 --> 00:52:29,880
instead of the song right all right you

1252
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:31,619
know what I mean and it's it's not

1253
00:52:38,569 --> 00:52:34,800
because of the impact of of of of of of

1254
00:52:42,650 --> 00:52:38,579
media today on how Glenn affected me why

1255
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:42,660
would I care it should be great but for

1256
00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:45,359
me I couldn't I couldn't get into the

1257
00:52:48,650 --> 00:52:47,099
song I was thinking about going probably

1258
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:48,660
not being there and Deacon having to be

1259
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,900
on stage and and it kept sucking it out

1260
00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:53,280
of me

1261
00:52:59,210 --> 00:52:56,760
I don't you know I don't know it's it's

1262
00:53:01,370 --> 00:52:59,220
I liken that to the release of the force

1263
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:01,380
awakens movie when it came out you know

1264
00:53:06,530 --> 00:53:03,780
I just this two days ago I got to take

1265
00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:06,540
my son my oldest son and his daughter to

1266
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,700
go see Return of the Jedi for the 40th

1267
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:10,559
anniversary in the theater

1268
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,540
and what's so cool about this is for the

1269
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:14,400
20th anniversary when they re-released

1270
00:53:19,609 --> 00:53:16,260
Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back Into

1271
00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:19,619
the theaters back in 97.

1272
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:21,240
I remember them releasing it they were

1273
00:53:23,690 --> 00:53:22,319
supposed to release all three and I

1274
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,700
think they only ended up releasing the

1275
00:53:28,130 --> 00:53:25,680
two and we never got to see Jedi

1276
00:53:30,049 --> 00:53:28,140
together my son and I uh and I've taken

1277
00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:30,059
him to see the force awakens I took all

1278
00:53:34,250 --> 00:53:31,740
my boys to go see the force awakens but

1279
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:34,260
I being media had got a chance to go see

1280
00:53:38,809 --> 00:53:37,380
it by myself with a media crowd and I

1281
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:38,819
walked out of the movie not knowing how

1282
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:41,040
I felt about it kind of like kind of

1283
00:53:45,410 --> 00:53:42,720
like seeing the human centipede the

1284
00:53:47,809 --> 00:53:45,420
first time you're like I don't know what

1285
00:53:49,609 --> 00:53:47,819
I feel about what I just watched right

1286
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:49,619
you're just like what I don't know what

1287
00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:52,380
emotion I've got going I I feel like it

1288
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:55,260
wants to be Nostalgia but it's missing

1289
00:54:01,309 --> 00:53:58,200
the heartbeat and what was it and then I

1290
00:54:04,130 --> 00:54:01,319
went to see it again and I had my oldest

1291
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:04,140
son my second oldest son and my two

1292
00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:07,680
youngest sons flanking me and my oldest

1293
00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:09,180
son wanted to sit right next to me and

1294
00:54:13,370 --> 00:54:11,220
we're going to watch this and and it

1295
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:13,380
goes on and we're and I'm watching them

1296
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:14,640
out of the corner of my eyes I keep

1297
00:54:17,930 --> 00:54:16,020
turning and I'm looking at them and

1298
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,940
they're they're just absorbed into the

1299
00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:19,680
screen and when they go running by they

1300
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,000
go what about that ship and he goes that

1301
00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:23,760
old bucket of bolts and there's the

1302
00:54:28,609 --> 00:54:26,940
Millennium Falcon my adult son who is a

1303
00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:28,619
Navy veteran and a Minneapolis

1304
00:54:35,450 --> 00:54:32,940
firefighter goes and he got so gleeful

1305
00:54:38,089 --> 00:54:35,460
and excited and my sons just all were

1306
00:54:40,130 --> 00:54:38,099
like oh and then went Chewie and Han

1307
00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:40,140
walk back in and they go Chewie we're

1308
00:54:46,190 --> 00:54:44,180
home my kids you could hear the

1309
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,200
excitement in their voice it was

1310
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:48,000
radiating out of them and that that

1311
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:50,400
showing to me was so much better than

1312
00:54:55,549 --> 00:54:52,740
the first one that I saw of the same

1313
00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:55,559
movie but it was in the context of I was

1314
00:54:59,809 --> 00:54:56,760
seeing it Through The Eyes of My

1315
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,819
Children seeing this Magic from their

1316
00:55:03,950 --> 00:55:01,440
childhood and things that I'd shared

1317
00:55:05,870 --> 00:55:03,960
with them before so it took me out of

1318
00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:05,880
the movie like when you went you saw

1319
00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:07,140
Deacon and all you could think of is

1320
00:55:12,349 --> 00:55:10,200
Glenn Frey that was my first screening

1321
00:55:14,510 --> 00:55:12,359
of the force awakens the second time I

1322
00:55:16,910 --> 00:55:14,520
could just go in and enjoy the movie for

1323
00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:16,920
the magic it was because I was reminded

1324
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:19,740
of where it was taking me

1325
00:55:23,870 --> 00:55:21,780
um you know like people beat up on the

1326
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:23,880
last Raiders movie the fourth uh Indiana

1327
00:55:28,970 --> 00:55:26,160
Jones and the Crystal Skull I

1328
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:28,980
unabashedly loved that movie that's

1329
00:55:35,089 --> 00:55:31,680
apologetically is that with Shia LaBeouf

1330
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:35,099
yes right beyond that dude that scene

1331
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,720
when they pull Indiana Jones out of the

1332
00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:38,400
trunk and throw them on the ground and

1333
00:55:42,109 --> 00:55:40,380
you see the Hat blow in the frame and

1334
00:55:43,549 --> 00:55:42,119
the shadow on the car you see him reach

1335
00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:43,559
down and grab the hat and put it on and

1336
00:55:49,870 --> 00:55:47,400
pull that brim down I physically made

1337
00:55:52,790 --> 00:55:49,880
this noise Jimmy

1338
00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:52,800
like a like a teenage girl who just

1339
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:54,660
walked in on the band Hanson in their

1340
00:55:59,630 --> 00:55:57,839
underwear I I was like oh I just was so

1341
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,640
excited to see that moment again so I

1342
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,200
think I don't I don't want to blame

1343
00:56:06,349 --> 00:56:03,839
Media or social media for all of these

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00:56:08,750 --> 00:56:06,359
different elements of how we it just it

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00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:08,760
how things resonate at the moment with

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00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:09,720
you and

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00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,000
you know I talked about Davey Jones that

1348
00:56:17,690 --> 00:56:14,160
hit me Peter tork's death not so much

1349
00:56:20,329 --> 00:56:17,700
Mike Nesmith kind of Hit me hard again

1350
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:20,339
um you know of the monkeys and and there

1351
00:56:24,890 --> 00:56:22,680
are different people that play different

1352
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:24,900
roles in your life in different ways

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00:56:29,390 --> 00:56:27,000
that are going to hit you in different

1354
00:56:31,549 --> 00:56:29,400
things but now you're right we are more

1355
00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:31,559
connected to them than we've ever been

1356
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,200
and they're making Tick-Tock videos and

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00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,960
Instagram shorts and this and that and

1358
00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:39,119
we're always kind of around we it's

1359
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,700
almost like your neighbor your friend

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00:56:45,890 --> 00:56:43,680
your nephew your niece your mom your

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00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:45,900
aunt your uncle sharing insights into

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00:56:49,849 --> 00:56:47,700
their life so we're gonna feel that I

1363
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,859
think a little bit more now than we ever

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00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:52,559
did plus we also have this weird

1365
00:56:59,569 --> 00:56:56,099
separation right as close as the world

1366
00:57:02,329 --> 00:56:59,579
has become thanks to social media

1367
00:57:04,849 --> 00:57:02,339
we are now more isolated alone I think

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00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:04,859
than we've ever been yeah you know is

1369
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,380
that it's that old story you know

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00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:09,599
uh the man that builds the fence around

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00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:12,839
his house all right to keep people out

1372
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:14,819
but he's actually closing himself in

1373
00:57:19,069 --> 00:57:17,640
yeah right and and it's it's a weird way

1374
00:57:22,010 --> 00:57:19,079
to look at it and the other the other

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00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:22,020
way I mean I don't want to sound like

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00:57:29,950 --> 00:57:27,119
some Guru uh Shaman dude but

1377
00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:29,960
um when when you're five years old

1378
00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:33,960
the monkeys are immortal

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00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,800
um

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00:57:40,250 --> 00:57:36,960
that that's not anything that's going to

1381
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:40,260
end in your lifetime no they're Immortal

1382
00:57:47,690 --> 00:57:45,780
and and that's why you know decades go

1383
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:47,700
by decades

1384
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:50,400
you know and and and everything is is

1385
00:57:55,609 --> 00:57:54,000
there uh Eddie Van Halen to me Immortal

1386
00:57:57,650 --> 00:57:55,619
I cannot believe he's not here right

1387
00:57:59,089 --> 00:57:57,660
right it just doesn't make any sense

1388
00:58:00,530 --> 00:57:59,099
it's just

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00:58:01,790 --> 00:58:00,540
and I know they're always talking to

1390
00:58:02,990 --> 00:58:01,800
Sammy and Dave and they're like oh do

1391
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,000
you do you guys think you'll ever do a

1392
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:05,040
Van Halen reunion that would be

1393
00:58:09,170 --> 00:58:07,200
sacrilege to me I could see Sam and Dave

1394
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:09,180
going on tour and doing cover versions

1395
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:12,000
but you can never have Van Halen even

1396
00:58:16,790 --> 00:58:14,880
with Alex alive and Wolfgang it's not

1397
00:58:19,250 --> 00:58:16,800
Van Halen without Eddie that's that's

1398
00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:19,260
weird to me right

1399
00:58:23,390 --> 00:58:21,300
um there are certain things that

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00:58:25,010 --> 00:58:23,400
transcend the band like if David Lee

1401
00:58:26,930 --> 00:58:25,020
Roth died he'd be like oh that's a part

1402
00:58:29,630 --> 00:58:26,940
of my youth wow that's good Sammy Hagar

1403
00:58:32,329 --> 00:58:29,640
oh that sucks but Eddie Van Halen hits

1404
00:58:34,190 --> 00:58:32,339
you deeper and in a different way than

1405
00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:34,200
even the lead singers did for the band

1406
00:58:41,569 --> 00:58:37,859
yeah yeah he transcended what he was he

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00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:41,579
he did transcend I mean there are um and

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00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:46,020
when you say Immortal uh like I do

1409
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:48,380
um Eddie

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00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:52,799
unless you were a guitar player or a

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00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,220
musician in a band in 1978

1412
00:59:01,250 --> 00:58:58,559
when Van Halen blasted onto the scene

1413
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:01,260
you don't really get it because there

1414
00:59:08,030 --> 00:59:03,920
was music before there was image before

1415
00:59:12,490 --> 00:59:08,040
there was so there was before Van Halen

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00:59:17,150 --> 00:59:12,500
Van Halen comes along like a supersonic

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00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:17,160
Space Age gravity spaceship

1418
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:21,119
it was unexpected and and nobody was

1419
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:25,260
prepared for that and Eddie changed the

1420
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:27,440
world of guitar

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completely every guitar store in Korea

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00:59:38,589 --> 00:59:35,460
every guitar store in Kansas

1423
00:59:42,609 --> 00:59:38,599
had to change what they did

1424
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:42,619
everything every every talk about

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00:59:47,410 --> 00:59:45,119
transcending you know and every

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00:59:51,530 --> 00:59:47,420
classical guitar player

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00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:51,540
Van Halen every country guitar player

1428
00:59:58,190 --> 00:59:55,500
wanted to be Eddie Eddie commanded the

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01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:58,200
stage he owned the audience and he had

1430
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his own thing and that's what everybody

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01:00:06,170 --> 01:00:03,059
wants you don't want to be Eddie Van

1432
01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:06,180
Halen but you want to be what Eddie Van

1433
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:10,200
Halen did right right isn't it I think

1434
01:00:16,370 --> 01:00:14,000
this is so interesting uh The Beatles

1435
01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:16,380
there was an interviewer talking to Paul

1436
01:00:19,789 --> 01:00:18,420
and he goes I've got to ask you a

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01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:19,799
question right

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01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:22,319
what was it like to grow up without the

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Beatles

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01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:24,780
and Paul's like what do you mean and he

1441
01:00:29,770 --> 01:00:26,520
goes well

1442
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:29,780
you guys were a phenomenon for the world

1443
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,079
there was never a Beatles for you

1444
01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:36,480
what was it like to live even though

1445
01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:38,460
that's insular man holy cow that's a

1446
01:00:43,609 --> 01:00:40,980
deep ass question there was no Beatles

1447
01:00:46,010 --> 01:00:43,619
there was nothing that rivaled the

1448
01:00:47,150 --> 01:00:46,020
Beatles And there still isn't I don't

1449
01:00:50,030 --> 01:00:47,160
know you could tell me whatever you want

1450
01:00:51,770 --> 01:00:50,040
there's still nothing that Rivals The

1451
01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:51,780
Beatles in that way

1452
01:00:56,510 --> 01:00:54,420
ever since there have been bands that

1453
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,520
are close and even Elvis and and Frank

1454
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,319
Sinatra could be said at you know at

1455
01:01:01,370 --> 01:01:00,480
Peaks that they certainly hit that level

1456
01:01:04,370 --> 01:01:01,380
but

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01:01:06,650 --> 01:01:04,380
what's it like to be Elvis and not have

1458
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:06,660
an Elvis what's it like to be Frank

1459
01:01:11,210 --> 01:01:09,359
Sinatra I mean you know he you could say

1460
01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:11,220
there were contemporaries of his Bing

1461
01:01:16,430 --> 01:01:13,380
Crosby and people that he kind of took

1462
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:16,440
the next you know the torch on from but

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01:01:20,569 --> 01:01:18,119
for the Beatles there was nobody before

1464
01:01:21,950 --> 01:01:20,579
them or after them like that and that's

1465
01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:21,960
weird right when you think about the

1466
01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:23,460
fact that some of these major

1467
01:01:27,890 --> 01:01:26,460
celebrities grew up without knowing what

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01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:27,900
it's like to live in a world with the

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01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:28,680
Beatles

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01:01:33,890 --> 01:01:31,200
yeah that's crazy that's it that's

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01:01:35,809 --> 01:01:33,900
that's pretty heavy it's a pretty heavy

1472
01:01:38,990 --> 01:01:35,819
thought actually

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01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,000
um the uh uh I've gotta uh take a

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01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:41,520
commercial break so we're gonna do that

1475
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:44,640
um when we come back I've I've got to

1476
01:01:49,490 --> 01:01:46,799
some things I'm just gonna run by you

1477
01:01:51,470 --> 01:01:49,500
and we're gonna talk about these one

1478
01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:51,480
after another

1479
01:01:55,309 --> 01:01:53,400
um set your polite way of saying so I

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01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:55,319
need short answers straight or short

1481
01:02:02,809 --> 01:01:58,799
answers an hour too only because uh

1482
01:02:05,569 --> 01:02:02,819
we've had a we've had a pretty nutty uh

1483
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:05,579
week of paranormal and strange headlines

1484
01:02:10,730 --> 01:02:08,160
around the news around the world and I

1485
01:02:13,849 --> 01:02:10,740
know that you do the Paranormal 60 but

1486
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:13,859
this may be outside of that but it may

1487
01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:16,079
be inside of it I just want your take on

1488
01:02:20,809 --> 01:02:18,420
some of these crazy ass headlines Dave

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01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:20,819
so stay right there this is Fade to

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01:02:25,849 --> 01:02:23,760
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01:02:28,430 --> 01:02:25,859
Dave will be right back after this short

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01:02:29,690 --> 01:02:28,440
break this is Fade to Black oh once

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01:02:33,650 --> 01:02:29,700
again

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01:02:36,829 --> 01:02:33,660
um I'm not prepared I sort of am and I

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01:02:40,970 --> 01:02:38,690
this is Jimmy Church of Fade to Black

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01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,980
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Dave

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um we've had a a crazy uh few weeks here

1586
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,940
of of of headlines and one of the things

1587
01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:22,880
that broke out

1588
01:06:29,870 --> 01:06:26,760
uh over the weekend was cattle

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01:06:33,470 --> 01:06:29,880
mutilations in Texas

1590
01:06:39,170 --> 01:06:33,480
um when uh what what went through your

1591
01:06:44,029 --> 01:06:41,630
um you know I

1592
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:44,039
I watched a documentary a number of

1593
01:06:48,049 --> 01:06:46,559
years ago that was about uh the

1594
01:06:50,270 --> 01:06:48,059
Paranormal and like all of a sudden in

1595
01:06:52,029 --> 01:06:50,280
the middle they just jumped to cattle

1596
01:06:55,849 --> 01:06:52,039
mutilations it was a weird transition

1597
01:06:58,430 --> 01:06:55,859
but this Sheriff got word that there was

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01:07:00,410 --> 01:06:58,440
a dead cow so he actually went out roped

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01:07:02,270 --> 01:07:00,420
it off and he sat vigil over this thing

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for like three days

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01:07:08,930 --> 01:07:05,760
and documented it and you know what by

1602
01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:08,940
the end of the three days it looked like

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01:07:15,950 --> 01:07:12,240
uh cow mutilation all of the soft tissue

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01:07:19,069 --> 01:07:15,960
around the mouth the private parts the

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01:07:20,930 --> 01:07:19,079
eyes had all gone there was no blood

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01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,940
anywhere because the blood had absorbed

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01:07:24,589 --> 01:07:22,559
into the ground and the insects that he

1608
01:07:25,970 --> 01:07:24,599
didn't do it had done their job

1609
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:25,980
and

1610
01:07:32,750 --> 01:07:31,200
it was just the sinew part of the of the

1611
01:07:34,910 --> 01:07:32,760
muscle texture and everything underneath

1612
01:07:37,609 --> 01:07:34,920
the skin is the the leathery outside

1613
01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:37,619
just kind of clung to it so the cow

1614
01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:40,500
mutilation stuff to me has gotten

1615
01:07:47,210 --> 01:07:43,260
I I don't know that I relate it to

1616
01:07:49,849 --> 01:07:47,220
to aliens because they showed how clean

1617
01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:49,859
the cuts were it looked like Laser

1618
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:51,420
Technology had eaten away but remember

1619
01:07:56,029 --> 01:07:53,760
leather is Pretty Tough we use it for a

1620
01:07:58,490 --> 01:07:56,039
reason and those insects could only eat

1621
01:08:00,049 --> 01:07:58,500
the soft tissue and they ate it as

1622
01:08:01,730 --> 01:08:00,059
precise as they could because that's all

1623
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,740
they could get to

1624
01:08:05,870 --> 01:08:04,079
um they will lay cows out and we you

1625
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:05,880
know we have Greg Lawson on a paranormal

1626
01:08:10,430 --> 01:08:08,940
60 as a cop and uh has been at the Body

1627
01:08:11,870 --> 01:08:10,440
Farm and he knows how things go and he

1628
01:08:13,490 --> 01:08:11,880
goes and he goes you'll go and check

1629
01:08:15,170 --> 01:08:13,500
these cows they're just a big hollow

1630
01:08:17,809 --> 01:08:15,180
shell because the bugs go in and eat

1631
01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:17,819
everything out and it looks alien in

1632
01:08:22,729 --> 01:08:20,279
nature it's an interesting

1633
01:08:24,829 --> 01:08:22,739
concept I don't know that I firmly

1634
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,839
believe that there's alien interaction

1635
01:08:28,610 --> 01:08:26,400
with it yet but as I said at the start

1636
01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:28,620
of the show I'm water I'm willing to go

1637
01:08:32,809 --> 01:08:30,420
with the flow and see where it goes but

1638
01:08:34,610 --> 01:08:32,819
I would say logically in science being

1639
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:34,620
able to show me what insects are doing

1640
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:36,839
what and how the body decays at a

1641
01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,120
natural rate even in a three-day span

1642
01:08:43,249 --> 01:08:41,520
two to three day span I'm leaning more

1643
01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:43,259
towards it's a more natural phenomena

1644
01:08:47,170 --> 01:08:46,199
than anything else how

1645
01:08:48,349 --> 01:08:47,180
um the

1646
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:48,359
[Music]

1647
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,120
this is where uh I get into head

1648
01:08:55,849 --> 01:08:52,799
scratching territory

1649
01:08:57,890 --> 01:08:55,859
in that it's Texas

1650
01:09:01,610 --> 01:08:57,900
Ranchers

1651
01:09:04,150 --> 01:09:01,620
Texas Rangers right you have all I I've

1652
01:09:09,890 --> 01:09:04,160
seen Yellowstone I know what's going on

1653
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:09,900
and and they know right and so for them

1654
01:09:15,289 --> 01:09:13,319
they must see dead livestock all the

1655
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,299
time it does it doesn't matter if it's

1656
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:18,000
goats or sheep or cows or what have you

1657
01:09:22,729 --> 01:09:21,120
and then you have a roadkill and

1658
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:22,739
everything else

1659
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:25,440
um and for them to come out you know the

1660
01:09:32,930 --> 01:09:29,040
sheriff's department and using all of

1661
01:09:36,769 --> 01:09:32,940
the things that make you wonder which is

1662
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:36,779
no blood no Footprints no tire tracks

1663
01:09:42,410 --> 01:09:39,600
surgical Precision

1664
01:09:46,430 --> 01:09:42,420
um and the removal and the surgical way

1665
01:09:48,169 --> 01:09:46,440
of of different body parts that uh we

1666
01:09:50,689 --> 01:09:48,179
all have read about over the years

1667
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:50,699
that's the head scratching part I don't

1668
01:09:58,189 --> 01:09:54,000
think that uh if it's if it's just

1669
01:10:00,110 --> 01:09:58,199
something natural that a sheriff or or

1670
01:10:02,150 --> 01:10:00,120
anybody else in law enforcement would

1671
01:10:03,229 --> 01:10:02,160
alarm and freak out the community unless

1672
01:10:05,930 --> 01:10:03,239
they thought that there was something

1673
01:10:08,330 --> 01:10:05,940
else going on well you have to remember

1674
01:10:10,189 --> 01:10:08,340
that not you know not everybody's seen

1675
01:10:11,810 --> 01:10:10,199
that documentary and a lot of people do

1676
01:10:14,150 --> 01:10:11,820
believe that aliens are mucking about

1677
01:10:15,410 --> 01:10:14,160
with our livestock so you know I'm

1678
01:10:17,870 --> 01:10:15,420
watching even in your chat room they're

1679
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:17,880
like bugs aren't what ate it well it's

1680
01:10:21,470 --> 01:10:19,800
nice that you know so well but I've

1681
01:10:23,149 --> 01:10:21,480
watched the science and I've seen it

1682
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:23,159
happen and I had friends that work on

1683
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:26,640
body farms and know how everything from

1684
01:10:33,169 --> 01:10:30,239
cattle to pets to humans

1685
01:10:35,149 --> 01:10:33,179
break down so that's why I said I'm on

1686
01:10:36,110 --> 01:10:35,159
that post that that's it and and just

1687
01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:36,120
because you're in law enforcement

1688
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:37,620
doesn't mean you worked at a body Farm

1689
01:10:41,930 --> 01:10:39,360
doesn't mean you've been there to see

1690
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:41,940
how this happens and if you're prone to

1691
01:10:46,610 --> 01:10:43,980
believe in the Paranormal and the

1692
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,620
Supernatural and I tell you I found this

1693
01:10:50,209 --> 01:10:48,000
cow and you go up there and that's

1694
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:50,219
something you haven't seen before that

1695
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:51,840
can be very disturbing

1696
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:54,000
but I'm not saying that it's not alien

1697
01:10:57,530 --> 01:10:55,440
just I want to be clear about that I'm

1698
01:11:00,050 --> 01:10:57,540
not saying it's not I'm just saying

1699
01:11:03,709 --> 01:11:00,060
Eileen morges towards yeah and I'm not

1700
01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:03,719
saying it is what I am saying is that

1701
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,840
ranchers and Cowboys are dealing with

1702
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:09,600
stuff they have answers for all of the

1703
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:12,480
things that involve a herd of cattle and

1704
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:14,640
you know there's there's diseases that

1705
01:11:17,390 --> 01:11:15,840
they're dealing with all the time

1706
01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:17,400
there's predators that they're dealing

1707
01:11:24,649 --> 01:11:20,040
with all the time they know and so for

1708
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:24,659
them to go uh okay uh this is this is a

1709
01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:28,800
mutilation is a strange thing to say a

1710
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:32,340
tongue has been surgically precisely cut

1711
01:11:40,189 --> 01:11:36,239
out not that it was eaten by maggots

1712
01:11:42,169 --> 01:11:40,199
over three days right they have seen

1713
01:11:45,649 --> 01:11:42,179
this you know to go in the other

1714
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:45,659
direction for professional Ranch hands

1715
01:11:49,370 --> 01:11:48,239
and and sheriffs that are dealing with

1716
01:11:51,169 --> 01:11:49,380
this all the time that's the head

1717
01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:51,179
scratcher for me

1718
01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:53,580
um and the and the no blood issue and

1719
01:11:59,090 --> 01:11:56,760
things I I don't think that they would

1720
01:12:01,550 --> 01:11:59,100
um say this if they had the answers to

1721
01:12:03,950 --> 01:12:01,560
it out of the gate that's that's the

1722
01:12:05,810 --> 01:12:03,960
part to me that just seems but have we

1723
01:12:08,030 --> 01:12:05,820
removed the corpse and have we taken

1724
01:12:08,810 --> 01:12:08,040
core samples of the earth underneath the

1725
01:12:11,450 --> 01:12:08,820
cow

1726
01:12:14,570 --> 01:12:11,460
to prove that there is no blood letting

1727
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:14,580
into the that it hasn't leaked its

1728
01:12:18,410 --> 01:12:16,560
fluids and blood into the ground by that

1729
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,420
point well wouldn't you know so I would

1730
01:12:21,470 --> 01:12:19,920
I would want them to do something like

1731
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:21,480
that before I would totally buy if

1732
01:12:26,209 --> 01:12:23,520
they're if the complete area is devoid

1733
01:12:27,950 --> 01:12:26,219
of blood even soaked in and saturated

1734
01:12:29,209 --> 01:12:27,960
then it becomes even more fascinating

1735
01:12:31,250 --> 01:12:29,219
but

1736
01:12:33,950 --> 01:12:31,260
I don't know I like I said it's it's

1737
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,960
interesting I I'm open to both sides but

1738
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:35,280
I'd like to hear from people that have

1739
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,159
legitimately said yes Dave here's the

1740
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,560
statistics we move the cow core samples

1741
01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:42,000
under four different sections of where

1742
01:12:46,729 --> 01:12:43,860
the cow was right by the head where

1743
01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:46,739
fluids might come out by the by the uh

1744
01:12:52,490 --> 01:12:49,980
the groin area that's been removed and

1745
01:12:55,370 --> 01:12:52,500
we found no blood

1746
01:12:58,669 --> 01:12:55,380
and it's not there they're the ones

1747
01:13:02,630 --> 01:12:58,679
saying no blood and here's here's the

1748
01:13:04,669 --> 01:13:02,640
crazy part for me I don't have and I

1749
01:13:06,050 --> 01:13:04,679
haven't gone and researched this I

1750
01:13:08,030 --> 01:13:06,060
probably should have but I raised the

1751
01:13:08,830 --> 01:13:08,040
same issue that you're bringing up right

1752
01:13:11,810 --> 01:13:08,840
now

1753
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:11,820
so let's think about

1754
01:13:18,169 --> 01:13:14,640
how many gallons of blood there must be

1755
01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:18,179
in a two thousand pound cow that's a

1756
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:21,420
freaking heck of a lot of blood right so

1757
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:24,480
I would think now I could be way wrong

1758
01:13:31,310 --> 01:13:28,080
here but and I'm not a biologist but I

1759
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:31,320
would only naturally assume that that

1760
01:13:37,850 --> 01:13:34,320
much blood draining out of a cow would

1761
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:37,860
have a dark spot on that dirt that would

1762
01:13:41,770 --> 01:13:39,199
be ginormous

1763
01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:41,780
dried coagulated

1764
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:47,219
dirt mud blood dirt right and they don't

1765
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:50,400
mention that right you know I I I I I

1766
01:13:56,810 --> 01:13:52,560
and the other fluids from the body too

1767
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:56,820
as well but by all indications they're

1768
01:14:01,250 --> 01:13:59,040
just saying that these cows were dropped

1769
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:01,260
there now I'm not saying it was aliens

1770
01:14:07,149 --> 01:14:03,360
I'm not I'm not I don't know what

1771
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:07,159
Giorgio I I'm not I know right

1772
01:14:13,790 --> 01:14:10,159
but I would rather have it be aliens

1773
01:14:17,090 --> 01:14:13,800
than some crazy satanic cult out there

1774
01:14:19,850 --> 01:14:17,100
doing sacrifices that that would freak

1775
01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:19,860
me out and that would scare me uh so

1776
01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:22,860
that's the point that's the part where I

1777
01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:25,800
I arrive at it's saying I hope it's

1778
01:14:30,890 --> 01:14:28,260
aliens because what if what if it's just

1779
01:14:33,229 --> 01:14:30,900
these cows took out some bad loans they

1780
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:33,239
didn't pay back their their you know

1781
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,239
bookie yep you know they were gonna run

1782
01:14:39,890 --> 01:14:38,159
there they're gonna run their cow mouths

1783
01:14:41,870 --> 01:14:39,900
and tell about this bookie and this is

1784
01:14:43,930 --> 01:14:41,880
how you handle things in the morning now

1785
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:43,940
the move

1786
01:14:49,250 --> 01:14:46,560
and then they followed it up with an

1787
01:14:50,570 --> 01:14:49,260
update uh two days ago they found a

1788
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:50,580
seventh cow

1789
01:14:55,370 --> 01:14:53,280
same stretch of highway different herd

1790
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:55,380
different piece of land so that now

1791
01:15:02,330 --> 01:14:58,800
they've found a seventh cow so yeah it's

1792
01:15:04,330 --> 01:15:02,340
it's weird and one of the cows

1793
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:04,340
um strangely enough

1794
01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:09,199
uh post mortem died of pneumonia

1795
01:15:18,110 --> 01:15:13,620
didn't die of the mutilation

1796
01:15:23,209 --> 01:15:18,120
and that's it's stranger still right and

1797
01:15:25,550 --> 01:15:23,219
I didn't make any sense man now we got

1798
01:15:28,189 --> 01:15:25,560
to worry about bird flu and cow flu yeah

1799
01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:28,199
yeah yeah exactly exactly so yeah I

1800
01:15:35,209 --> 01:15:31,140
don't know I don't know very strange

1801
01:15:37,550 --> 01:15:35,219
um and uh I want to talk about balloons

1802
01:15:41,630 --> 01:15:37,560
yeah a new one floating around up yeah

1803
01:15:44,030 --> 01:15:41,640
we got a new one uh uh near Hawaii uh on

1804
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,040
its way to Mexico

1805
01:15:48,350 --> 01:15:46,800
um and I guess uh the military has

1806
01:15:50,270 --> 01:15:48,360
stepped in saying

1807
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,280
gets near land we're going to shoot it

1808
01:15:55,070 --> 01:15:52,560
down too as well

1809
01:15:57,890 --> 01:15:55,080
um why why all of a sudden are we

1810
01:16:00,050 --> 01:15:57,900
shooting balloons out of the sky

1811
01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,060
amen I don't know if you've been paying

1812
01:16:04,610 --> 01:16:02,400
attention but we've got some tension

1813
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:04,620
going on between Russia and China and us

1814
01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:08,940
and uh Gathering Intel on us is probably

1815
01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:12,900
uh very important to all involved and

1816
01:16:16,610 --> 01:16:14,100
then you've got

1817
01:16:18,169 --> 01:16:16,620
countries now that are saying you know

1818
01:16:20,270 --> 01:16:18,179
what it's time we take some of the power

1819
01:16:22,130 --> 01:16:20,280
away from America and the power of their

1820
01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:22,140
US dollar and a lot of these countries

1821
01:16:26,330 --> 01:16:24,239
are deciding to go to different

1822
01:16:28,970 --> 01:16:26,340
currencies which can destabilize our

1823
01:16:32,510 --> 01:16:28,980
finances China and if China and Russia

1824
01:16:36,050 --> 01:16:32,520
uh are smart which they are uh and they

1825
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:36,060
can't beat us in a nuclear strike but

1826
01:16:40,370 --> 01:16:37,920
they can gain enough Intelligence on us

1827
01:16:43,010 --> 01:16:40,380
that they can sweep our legs and take

1828
01:16:45,890 --> 01:16:43,020
you know break our finances our economy

1829
01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:45,900
our people and then do their damage I

1830
01:16:49,610 --> 01:16:47,460
think that's what they're looking at and

1831
01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:49,620
right now there's been a lot of seeds

1832
01:16:57,050 --> 01:16:55,080
sown causing dissension uh even we're

1833
01:16:58,610 --> 01:16:57,060
fractured man this country's in a world

1834
01:17:00,290 --> 01:16:58,620
of hurt

1835
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,300
um and I'm not beating up on America I

1836
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:02,880
love America but we're there's so much

1837
01:17:07,070 --> 01:17:05,520
derision and anger between the people

1838
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:07,080
there's so much

1839
01:17:13,130 --> 01:17:10,320
issues going on we are ripe for a

1840
01:17:14,990 --> 01:17:13,140
country that's decided this is when we

1841
01:17:18,110 --> 01:17:15,000
take them apart they're already at each

1842
01:17:19,550 --> 01:17:18,120
other's throats so Gathering Intel and

1843
01:17:21,290 --> 01:17:19,560
information now

1844
01:17:23,450 --> 01:17:21,300
this might be the time plus you start

1845
01:17:25,550 --> 01:17:23,460
building that paranoia you start

1846
01:17:27,950 --> 01:17:25,560
building even more distrust in your

1847
01:17:29,630 --> 01:17:27,960
country in in America

1848
01:17:31,010 --> 01:17:29,640
because well why didn't we shoot it down

1849
01:17:32,330 --> 01:17:31,020
sooner we finally got the word that

1850
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:32,340
those balloons that were floating over

1851
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:34,080
when we finally shot them down by the

1852
01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:35,280
time we shot him down all that

1853
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:36,960
information that they'd garnered had

1854
01:17:41,090 --> 01:17:38,880
already been transmitted to China

1855
01:17:44,209 --> 01:17:41,100
so they're building a pretty good

1856
01:17:46,250 --> 01:17:44,219
disinformation or uh pretty good

1857
01:17:48,590 --> 01:17:46,260
um reason to discredit our own country

1858
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:48,600
we're I don't know man

1859
01:17:53,570 --> 01:17:50,719
heaven

1860
01:17:56,990 --> 01:17:53,580
to be firing missiles over North America

1861
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:57,000
all of a sudden uh have balloons to me

1862
01:18:05,630 --> 01:18:01,440
seems rather sudden when balloons have

1863
01:18:07,610 --> 01:18:05,640
been a part of this planet forever right

1864
01:18:10,990 --> 01:18:07,620
they've always been flying around all of

1865
01:18:14,450 --> 01:18:11,000
a sudden we decided to shoot them down

1866
01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:14,460
and there isn't really any indication of

1867
01:18:19,790 --> 01:18:16,260
these other balloons aside from the

1868
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:19,800
Chinese uh quote weather balloon

1869
01:18:24,770 --> 01:18:22,320
um that we're Gathering intelligence but

1870
01:18:28,189 --> 01:18:24,780
we still will fire a half million dollar

1871
01:18:30,830 --> 01:18:28,199
missile at it even though it may be

1872
01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:30,840
something else altogether it may be just

1873
01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:33,719
a balloon with nothing attached to it

1874
01:18:41,530 --> 01:18:36,300
but now we're firing missiles

1875
01:18:46,130 --> 01:18:44,090
interest that should have been there all

1876
01:18:48,169 --> 01:18:46,140
along how if you were running the

1877
01:18:51,290 --> 01:18:48,179
country right now Jimmy knowing the

1878
01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:51,300
issues we've had for the last decade

1879
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:53,760
what is the right answer in handling

1880
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:55,679
this if you don't shoot them down you've

1881
01:18:59,630 --> 01:18:57,840
got half of the country going we're not

1882
01:19:01,850 --> 01:18:59,640
even protecting ourselves you're our

1883
01:19:04,370 --> 01:19:01,860
president's weak and he's an idiot and a

1884
01:19:06,350 --> 01:19:04,380
daughtering old fool and we need a new

1885
01:19:08,030 --> 01:19:06,360
leader or an old leader back in play who

1886
01:19:10,490 --> 01:19:08,040
would have shot this and it would have

1887
01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:10,500
never gotten this far to begin with and

1888
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:12,420
then you've got people that are saying

1889
01:19:15,890 --> 01:19:14,159
why are we shooting this stuff down why

1890
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:15,900
are we wasting millions of dollars of

1891
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:18,480
miss you know are we really hiding UFOs

1892
01:19:24,169 --> 01:19:21,840
or there's no right decision right now

1893
01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:24,179
in our country there's nothing that's

1894
01:19:28,370 --> 01:19:26,100
going to bring us together until like

1895
01:19:30,050 --> 01:19:28,380
you're opening Ronald Reagan talks about

1896
01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:30,060
what's going to bring us together is

1897
01:19:33,890 --> 01:19:32,100
when we have a combined threat when the

1898
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:33,900
skies light up with UFOs like

1899
01:19:37,010 --> 01:19:35,760
Independence Day right that's when

1900
01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:37,020
that's when everybody's going to come

1901
01:19:42,770 --> 01:19:39,840
together and become the world as opposed

1902
01:19:46,370 --> 01:19:42,780
to Canadians Russians Chinese French

1903
01:19:47,689 --> 01:19:46,380
Americans Mexicans it's going to be the

1904
01:19:50,750 --> 01:19:47,699
world as opposed to a bunch of

1905
01:19:53,630 --> 01:19:50,760
independent angry people and

1906
01:20:00,410 --> 01:19:56,270
I believe that there's something big

1907
01:20:03,229 --> 01:20:00,420
coming that is otherworldly

1908
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:03,239
I believe that maybe some of this is to

1909
01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:07,199
distract from that so that if people do

1910
01:20:12,770 --> 01:20:09,239
see things they

1911
01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:12,780
put it off as probably a balloon

1912
01:20:16,910 --> 01:20:14,640
I you know I think there's a lot of

1913
01:20:18,830 --> 01:20:16,920
things at play right now

1914
01:20:20,110 --> 01:20:18,840
um you've been asked does that make

1915
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:20,120
sense

1916
01:20:25,370 --> 01:20:24,000
which is why I want to ask you

1917
01:20:28,130 --> 01:20:25,380
um once again you know you've been at

1918
01:20:29,930 --> 01:20:28,140
this for a very long time but the one

1919
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:29,940
thing that I know that you haven't seen

1920
01:20:35,209 --> 01:20:33,360
because none of us have is suddenly all

1921
01:20:38,689 --> 01:20:35,219
of this is in the headlines at the same

1922
01:20:41,689 --> 01:20:38,699
time right we've got balloons we've got

1923
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:41,699
uaps we've got Senate hearings we've got

1924
01:20:48,290 --> 01:20:46,080
uh the Navy we've got Tic Tacs uh we've

1925
01:20:52,910 --> 01:20:48,300
got now cattle mutilations right

1926
01:20:56,209 --> 01:20:52,920
everything is all happening at the same

1927
01:20:58,669 --> 01:20:56,219
time and it's never ever been like this

1928
01:21:00,770 --> 01:20:58,679
before and you have to ask yourself why

1929
01:21:03,050 --> 01:21:00,780
well all right Jimmy you've been doing

1930
01:21:05,450 --> 01:21:03,060
this a long time I disagree with your

1931
01:21:08,030 --> 01:21:05,460
statement I believe that this has always

1932
01:21:11,209 --> 01:21:08,040
been going on but hear me out okay it's

1933
01:21:13,310 --> 01:21:11,219
all Fringe news cow mutilations UAP UFOs

1934
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:13,320
it's all stuff that mainstream is not

1935
01:21:16,610 --> 01:21:15,360
going to look at but it's been there you

1936
01:21:19,610 --> 01:21:16,620
and I have been reading these stories

1937
01:21:22,850 --> 01:21:19,620
and seeing these claims but now that the

1938
01:21:25,250 --> 01:21:22,860
legitimacy of the news world because

1939
01:21:28,370 --> 01:21:25,260
they're covering what the Pentagon is

1940
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,380
saying and our sources and they're

1941
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:30,960
taking it serious in the Senate and in

1942
01:21:37,850 --> 01:21:34,800
Congress now there's more

1943
01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:37,860
power behind the other news stories now

1944
01:21:42,890 --> 01:21:40,020
they're not as crazy in Fringe because

1945
01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:42,900
you were laughing at us years ago for

1946
01:21:47,570 --> 01:21:45,960
the UFO and UAP stuff and now the

1947
01:21:50,750 --> 01:21:47,580
government's going we don't know what

1948
01:21:53,390 --> 01:21:50,760
this is we we're confident it's not

1949
01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:53,400
Russia we know it's not China

1950
01:21:58,850 --> 01:21:56,460
it's not us we can't say it's alien but

1951
01:22:01,850 --> 01:21:58,860
we don't know what it is that opens the

1952
01:22:03,410 --> 01:22:01,860
door to let's throw in cow mutilation

1953
01:22:06,410 --> 01:22:03,420
and you know the old headline if it

1954
01:22:09,229 --> 01:22:06,420
bleeds it leads and it's it's close

1955
01:22:10,850 --> 01:22:09,239
enough that this is going to be a click

1956
01:22:13,550 --> 01:22:10,860
bait which is what this world is all

1957
01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:13,560
about right now is how do I get eyes on

1958
01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:15,780
this how do I get eyes on my story and

1959
01:22:23,149 --> 01:22:18,000
on my website and on my podcast and on

1960
01:22:25,209 --> 01:22:23,159
my news source so you can you can go at

1961
01:22:27,050 --> 01:22:25,219
it now because

1962
01:22:29,870 --> 01:22:27,060
mainstream media has made it okay

1963
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:29,880
because they're reporting on uaps does

1964
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:32,400
that make sense it does and then and

1965
01:22:39,050 --> 01:22:36,239
then we take things one step further all

1966
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:39,060
right where it's like Hollywood just

1967
01:22:43,490 --> 01:22:41,280
coming true right the UFOs Capital

1968
01:22:44,689 --> 01:22:43,500
mutilation from Bigfoot will be next

1969
01:22:46,750 --> 01:22:44,699
right

1970
01:22:50,750 --> 01:22:46,760
um and everything else that is happening

1971
01:22:53,689 --> 01:22:50,760
and then you throw in the Terminator and

1972
01:22:55,930 --> 01:22:53,699
artificial intelligence and Skylanders

1973
01:22:59,090 --> 01:22:55,940
right right right

1974
01:23:01,130 --> 01:22:59,100
and to talk about scaring the crap out

1975
01:23:04,010 --> 01:23:01,140
of everybody

1976
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:04,020
um uh artificial intelligence which is

1977
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:08,159
something that has been uh debated uh uh

1978
01:23:12,050 --> 01:23:10,080
amongst the big brains and the big

1979
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:12,060
thinkers out there and the dangers of it

1980
01:23:16,910 --> 01:23:15,120
and the advantages of it

1981
01:23:22,850 --> 01:23:16,920
um I've got friends of mine that write

1982
01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:22,860
AI code and and they they are okay with

1983
01:23:30,110 --> 01:23:27,000
it but here we are now where uh three

1984
01:23:32,810 --> 01:23:30,120
years ago Elon Musk gave his one of the

1985
01:23:34,669 --> 01:23:32,820
most dire warnings about AI which is

1986
01:23:37,070 --> 01:23:34,679
it's a bigger threat to humanity than

1987
01:23:39,290 --> 01:23:37,080
nuclear weapons we need to be very

1988
01:23:41,570 --> 01:23:39,300
careful and then what does he do he

1989
01:23:45,770 --> 01:23:41,580
turns around and buys an AI social media

1990
01:23:48,290 --> 01:23:45,780
company right and driven by AI with AI

1991
01:23:50,030 --> 01:23:48,300
Bots all over but but if you want to

1992
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:50,040
know what the enemy is doing you get in

1993
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:53,040
League with the Enemy right 100 100 no

1994
01:23:57,229 --> 01:23:54,719
doubt no doubt

1995
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,239
um and but but is there also a lot of

1996
01:24:01,610 --> 01:23:59,280
this going on a lot of smoke and mirrors

1997
01:24:03,709 --> 01:24:01,620
and look look at the cards in this hand

1998
01:24:07,490 --> 01:24:03,719
while I'm pulling a dove out of my hat

1999
01:24:10,130 --> 01:24:07,500
over in this hand right you know are we

2000
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:10,140
are we having so many things coming at

2001
01:24:14,090 --> 01:24:12,000
us because what's really going on is

2002
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:14,100
even more terrifying the way our

2003
01:24:18,770 --> 01:24:16,800
government may be betraying us or the

2004
01:24:22,189 --> 01:24:18,780
way we our government may be losing

2005
01:24:25,070 --> 01:24:22,199
control of things and it's oh God how

2006
01:24:27,470 --> 01:24:25,080
are we gonna Our Food Supplies drying up

2007
01:24:29,390 --> 01:24:27,480
if we admit our food supply is drying up

2008
01:24:32,570 --> 01:24:29,400
people are going to go into a panic

2009
01:24:35,390 --> 01:24:32,580
release a story about UFOs no this is

2010
01:24:37,729 --> 01:24:35,400
conspiratorial conversation and talk but

2011
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:37,739
I believe that there's a lot to some of

2012
01:24:42,290 --> 01:24:40,080
these sleight of hands that let's keep

2013
01:24:44,689 --> 01:24:42,300
you talking about Tic Tacs and cow

2014
01:24:46,729 --> 01:24:44,699
mutilations and you're you've stopped

2015
01:24:49,610 --> 01:24:46,739
focusing on the fact that the cheapest

2016
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:49,620
meal at McDonald's is 11 bucks now right

2017
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:52,080
right and that a head of lettuce is

2018
01:24:58,510 --> 01:24:54,960
seven dollars and a carton of eggs is

2019
01:25:01,610 --> 01:24:58,520
six bucks right we're we're

2020
01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:01,620
distracted by the bigger flashing bangs

2021
01:25:05,810 --> 01:25:03,600
that we're not paying as close attention

2022
01:25:07,370 --> 01:25:05,820
to the little things that are going

2023
01:25:10,370 --> 01:25:07,380
wrong

2024
01:25:13,130 --> 01:25:10,380
so distraction and it makes a lot of

2025
01:25:16,430 --> 01:25:13,140
sense though right it makes an awful lot

2026
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:16,440
of sense I walked out of uh it has

2027
01:25:23,209 --> 01:25:19,440
become the norm now that I don't think

2028
01:25:25,550 --> 01:25:23,219
about it as much but I walk out of the

2029
01:25:29,149 --> 01:25:25,560
supermarket with a single bag that's

2030
01:25:31,850 --> 01:25:29,159
half full right my reusable bag

2031
01:25:33,229 --> 01:25:31,860
75 bucks right

2032
01:25:34,430 --> 01:25:33,239
yeah

2033
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:34,440
I like to drop 70

2034
01:25:40,630 --> 01:25:36,960
on what

2035
01:25:45,649 --> 01:25:40,640
what oh my God

2036
01:25:48,830 --> 01:25:45,659
what and and and and I yeah yeah so

2037
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:48,840
distract me from from that shock and awe

2038
01:25:54,290 --> 01:25:51,600
because it's you just keep nudging

2039
01:25:57,709 --> 01:25:54,300
things slow like look concert tickets

2040
01:26:00,590 --> 01:25:57,719
I'm a big Bruce Springsteen fan he goes

2041
01:26:03,470 --> 01:26:00,600
touring Ticketmaster plays this new

2042
01:26:05,149 --> 01:26:03,480
thing out which is horrific and and

2043
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:05,159
Taylor Swift is dealing with the Fallout

2044
01:26:08,990 --> 01:26:07,440
and all these other bands and Bruce is

2045
01:26:10,729 --> 01:26:09,000
kind of hands are tied everybody's like

2046
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:10,739
oh what's Bruce gonna say oh he's he's

2047
01:26:16,010 --> 01:26:13,320
given in he's sold out no he wants to

2048
01:26:18,590 --> 01:26:16,020
tour he wants to be seen but this

2049
01:26:20,330 --> 01:26:18,600
predictive deal now where Ticketmaster

2050
01:26:22,370 --> 01:26:20,340
oh more people are buying general

2051
01:26:25,010 --> 01:26:22,380
admission seats they were 200 now

2052
01:26:27,410 --> 01:26:25,020
they're 350. oh there's even less supply

2053
01:26:29,629 --> 01:26:27,420
and demand now they're 500. so in the

2054
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:29,639
span of an hour the tickets that I

2055
01:26:34,669 --> 01:26:32,280
bought for 200 for my wife and I to go

2056
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:34,679
see Bruce Springsteen general admission

2057
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,440
sixth row standing room only on the

2058
01:26:42,410 --> 01:26:39,840
floor by the end of it we're selling for

2059
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,420
1100 a piece and then

2060
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,400
three months out from the concert they

2061
01:26:48,110 --> 01:26:46,800
were selling for 2500 bucks a piece and

2062
01:26:50,510 --> 01:26:48,120
there's nothing you could do about it

2063
01:26:52,610 --> 01:26:50,520
and okay we were outraged and we're

2064
01:26:55,129 --> 01:26:52,620
disgusted but I'm gonna go see Bruce

2065
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,139
Springsteen and you're gonna go see the

2066
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:57,840
Rolling Stones and I'm gonna go see this

2067
01:27:03,110 --> 01:26:59,760
and and we're gonna accept it and it's

2068
01:27:04,370 --> 01:27:03,120
just gonna become the norm and then two

2069
01:27:05,629 --> 01:27:04,380
years from now nobody's going to be

2070
01:27:07,129 --> 01:27:05,639
talking about it anymore they'll be

2071
01:27:08,930 --> 01:27:07,139
saying man remember when we used to be

2072
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:08,940
able to afford to go to concerts right

2073
01:27:13,729 --> 01:27:12,000
but the new play will be in and there's

2074
01:27:15,169 --> 01:27:13,739
nothing you can do about it and that's

2075
01:27:18,649 --> 01:27:15,179
the way these things happen there's got

2076
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:18,659
to be somebody that causes a storm

2077
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:20,880
and then once everybody realizes the

2078
01:27:23,870 --> 01:27:22,320
storm's not going away we just get

2079
01:27:27,470 --> 01:27:23,880
complacent and move on

2080
01:27:30,050 --> 01:27:27,480
is everybody looking at uh okay stay

2081
01:27:31,550 --> 01:27:30,060
right there Dave do not move do not move

2082
01:27:35,330 --> 01:27:31,560
just stay right there

2083
01:27:40,370 --> 01:27:35,340
I'm I'm going to do this

2084
01:27:40,380 --> 01:27:45,290
the Halo that is

2085
01:27:48,890 --> 01:27:48,050
look at this picture

2086
01:27:52,030 --> 01:27:48,900
yeah

2087
01:27:59,750 --> 01:27:56,229
talk about subliminal messaging right

2088
01:28:01,850 --> 01:27:59,760
that is hilarious to me oh man let me I

2089
01:28:05,330 --> 01:28:01,860
gotta get back on the left it's my it's

2090
01:28:08,810 --> 01:28:05,340
my logo so you know oh but dude it is

2091
01:28:13,250 --> 01:28:08,820
it's uh look look somebody just said

2092
01:28:20,689 --> 01:28:17,689
oh man look look Dave look yes all night

2093
01:28:21,770 --> 01:28:20,699
uh wait a minute wait this is great this

2094
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:21,780
is great

2095
01:28:26,209 --> 01:28:24,719
so um like Dave was born with a Halo

2096
01:28:29,149 --> 01:28:26,219
thank you flying monkeys you understand

2097
01:28:31,970 --> 01:28:29,159
me but this AI thing

2098
01:28:34,250 --> 01:28:31,980
um a lot like social media

2099
01:28:37,370 --> 01:28:34,260
um we've been warned about AI for a very

2100
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:37,380
long time we've all seen Terminator and

2101
01:28:41,870 --> 01:28:40,320
Terminator 2 to me Terminator one was

2102
01:28:44,510 --> 01:28:41,880
more of a horror film it was pretty

2103
01:28:46,850 --> 01:28:44,520
scary pretty violent Terminator 2 was

2104
01:28:49,729 --> 01:28:46,860
more of the philosophical existential

2105
01:28:51,770 --> 01:28:49,739
possibility kind of thing which scared

2106
01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:51,780
me a little bit more about the reality

2107
01:28:58,250 --> 01:28:55,679
of of what what the future may bring us

2108
01:29:01,250 --> 01:28:58,260
um and and now ai is here

2109
01:29:03,530 --> 01:29:01,260
I I um you know there's some Brilliance

2110
01:29:05,689 --> 01:29:03,540
to AI there's some really amazing

2111
01:29:08,510 --> 01:29:05,699
elements to this that there's this guy

2112
01:29:11,570 --> 01:29:08,520
with his own home version of AI he's

2113
01:29:15,530 --> 01:29:11,580
releasing so he just released um Paul

2114
01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:15,540
McCartney singing uh uh My Life by Billy

2115
01:29:20,450 --> 01:29:18,300
Joel and it's brilliant and and

2116
01:29:22,490 --> 01:29:20,460
McCartney's alive and his voice is not

2117
01:29:26,090 --> 01:29:22,500
holding up but if I could hear new

2118
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:26,100
McCartney music that McCartney wrote and

2119
01:29:30,530 --> 01:29:29,040
produced and sent his AI version of his

2120
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:30,540
voice I would pay for that album because

2121
01:29:34,970 --> 01:29:33,120
it's still McCartney creating it I'm not

2122
01:29:36,890 --> 01:29:34,980
as Keen as Jimmy bought the rights to

2123
01:29:39,229 --> 01:29:36,900
McCartney and his voice and once he's

2124
01:29:40,729 --> 01:29:39,239
dead Jimmy starts writing some crap

2125
01:29:43,129 --> 01:29:40,739
music and then pumping in Paul

2126
01:29:44,330 --> 01:29:43,139
McCartney's voice to it but there are

2127
01:29:47,090 --> 01:29:44,340
different elements you know there's a

2128
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:47,100
company called you've and uh it's you

2129
01:29:52,129 --> 01:29:49,560
only virtual and I think it's beautiful

2130
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:52,139
because it's it's going to help with the

2131
01:29:56,570 --> 01:29:54,239
grieving process and in a unique way

2132
01:29:57,709 --> 01:29:56,580
that I living can make all these

2133
01:30:01,310 --> 01:29:57,719
recordings

2134
01:30:04,010 --> 01:30:01,320
and I can talk and and it learns me and

2135
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:04,020
then my children can if I go my children

2136
01:30:08,689 --> 01:30:06,960
can talk to this and their dad I miss

2137
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,699
you oh I miss you too honey and they can

2138
01:30:13,970 --> 01:30:10,560
have this kind of virtual conversation

2139
01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:13,980
now to some people that's horrifying

2140
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:16,560
to me I think it's I miss my mom so much

2141
01:30:20,930 --> 01:30:18,960
Jim I miss I can't remember her voice I

2142
01:30:23,450 --> 01:30:20,940
can tell you I can hear Michael

2143
01:30:25,490 --> 01:30:23,460
Jackson's voice speaking in my head I

2144
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:25,500
can hear John Wayne's voice I can hear

2145
01:30:29,149 --> 01:30:27,360
Clint Eastwood's voice and these aren't

2146
01:30:31,790 --> 01:30:29,159
voices I hear every day

2147
01:30:34,430 --> 01:30:31,800
I heard my mom's voice for 55 years for

2148
01:30:36,169 --> 01:30:34,440
50 years right I remember her voice I

2149
01:30:38,209 --> 01:30:36,179
would kill to have her voice talk to me

2150
01:30:40,250 --> 01:30:38,219
to on bad days pick up the phone and go

2151
01:30:41,870 --> 01:30:40,260
Mom I don't know what to do

2152
01:30:44,090 --> 01:30:41,880
and just have the voice say it's okay

2153
01:30:45,770 --> 01:30:44,100
honey you figured it out before you'll

2154
01:30:48,169 --> 01:30:45,780
figure it out again man to me that's

2155
01:30:49,729 --> 01:30:48,179
that's an amazing mood that's an amazing

2156
01:30:52,129 --> 01:30:49,739
thing however I don't know if you saw

2157
01:30:55,250 --> 01:30:52,139
this new story people are saying if you

2158
01:30:57,229 --> 01:30:55,260
get these random voice callers and

2159
01:30:59,870 --> 01:30:57,239
they're asking a bunch of questions that

2160
01:31:01,729 --> 01:30:59,880
seem random don't talk hang up because

2161
01:31:04,370 --> 01:31:01,739
what it is is it's AI collecting your

2162
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:04,380
voice and this woman got a phone call

2163
01:31:10,970 --> 01:31:07,920
one night and she took the call and it's

2164
01:31:13,250 --> 01:31:10,980
she hears her daughter screaming please

2165
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:13,260
Mom help me I need your help and then

2166
01:31:16,669 --> 01:31:14,880
this guy takes over and he goes I have

2167
01:31:19,490 --> 01:31:16,679
your daughter and I'm going to do

2168
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:19,500
horrible things to her I want fifty

2169
01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:21,360
thousand dollars you're gonna pay this

2170
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:24,480
to me this way and the mom's like wait

2171
01:31:28,250 --> 01:31:26,880
what is going on and the daughter's

2172
01:31:29,930 --> 01:31:28,260
pleading in the background the whole

2173
01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:29,940
time and he puts the phone back to her

2174
01:31:33,290 --> 01:31:31,440
and she has a conversation with her

2175
01:31:34,910 --> 01:31:33,300
mother and then he pulls the phone away

2176
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:34,920
and

2177
01:31:39,649 --> 01:31:37,679
This Woman's in panic mode when suddenly

2178
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:39,659
she hears her daughter upstairs in her

2179
01:31:44,270 --> 01:31:42,000
room and realizes somebody got her

2180
01:31:46,250 --> 01:31:44,280
daughter's voice off social media

2181
01:31:49,490 --> 01:31:46,260
created this and was trying to fleece

2182
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:49,500
her for 50 Grand that's terrifying to me

2183
01:31:53,810 --> 01:31:52,080
that is and they say Have a safe word

2184
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:53,820
with your family so if anything like

2185
01:31:58,430 --> 01:31:56,400
that happens you can say if Jimmy if

2186
01:32:01,250 --> 01:31:58,440
this is you what's our safe word

2187
01:32:03,530 --> 01:32:01,260
Schrader knots it's always Schrader

2188
01:32:06,830 --> 01:32:03,540
knots right that's right so I know I

2189
01:32:08,750 --> 01:32:06,840
know the the the word but it's it that

2190
01:32:11,149 --> 01:32:08,760
to me is the terrifying element to this

2191
01:32:13,129 --> 01:32:11,159
of what people are doing and how good

2192
01:32:14,450 --> 01:32:13,139
there's this deep fake that's going on I

2193
01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:14,460
don't know if you watch on like The Tick

2194
01:32:18,890 --> 01:32:17,040
Tock and Instagram they've got Joe Biden

2195
01:32:22,189 --> 01:32:18,900
and

2196
01:32:24,350 --> 01:32:22,199
um Donald Trump telling uh racist jokes

2197
01:32:26,209 --> 01:32:24,360
to one another and geez you listen to it

2198
01:32:29,090 --> 01:32:26,219
you're like

2199
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:29,100
if I didn't know this if this just hit

2200
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:30,960
the news I would totally believe what

2201
01:32:37,790 --> 01:32:33,840
I'm watching because the video and audio

2202
01:32:40,370 --> 01:32:37,800
are amazing that's terrifying to me yeah

2203
01:32:43,070 --> 01:32:40,380
I've seen some of the Tom Cruise

2204
01:32:45,770 --> 01:32:43,080
um stuff that's out there you can't tell

2205
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:45,780
the difference nope you know and it's

2206
01:32:52,330 --> 01:32:48,719
it's that's with celebrities but you're

2207
01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:52,340
right uh it will get down to the

2208
01:32:57,950 --> 01:32:56,159
singular level the micro like that lady

2209
01:32:59,570 --> 01:32:57,960
that gets and I read the article about

2210
01:33:02,090 --> 01:32:59,580
that right you get the phone call that

2211
01:33:04,669 --> 01:33:02,100
we've kidnapped your daughter we're no

2212
01:33:08,629 --> 01:33:04,679
longer looking at a video of a deep fake

2213
01:33:11,810 --> 01:33:08,639
of Tom Cruise it's now gotten to all

2214
01:33:13,490 --> 01:33:11,820
levels of society uh where this can have

2215
01:33:15,770 --> 01:33:13,500
a direct effect on us and that's it

2216
01:33:17,870 --> 01:33:15,780
cannot scare can I be controversial I'm

2217
01:33:20,209 --> 01:33:17,880
going to point out you got a guy in your

2218
01:33:23,090 --> 01:33:20,219
chat room people like this guy terrify

2219
01:33:25,790 --> 01:33:23,100
me and I hey you can hate me for saying

2220
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:25,800
this not Jimmy uh but he's his comment

2221
01:33:28,970 --> 01:33:27,120
where is he I can't see him now he

2222
01:33:30,410 --> 01:33:28,980
scroll up but he had some jackass

2223
01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:30,420
comment like well if you're dumb enough

2224
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:32,400
to fall for this you deserve it

2225
01:33:37,129 --> 01:33:34,560
no if you're a parent and your child

2226
01:33:38,750 --> 01:33:37,139
calls you screaming the logic goes out

2227
01:33:40,669 --> 01:33:38,760
the window you begin hearing your child

2228
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:40,679
in pain the first immediate response to

2229
01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:42,960
you as a good parent as somebody who

2230
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:46,080
actually cares is to be concerned oh I

2231
01:33:50,570 --> 01:33:49,440
had uh look so so I just I I'm sorry and

2232
01:33:52,430 --> 01:33:50,580
I don't mean to go on the attack of the

2233
01:33:54,530 --> 01:33:52,440
one guy but that's the dumbest ass thing

2234
01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:54,540
I've ever read Dave I had that phone

2235
01:33:59,689 --> 01:33:57,120
call for Mexico like uh three years ago

2236
01:34:02,209 --> 01:33:59,699
so I'm sitting on my back patio

2237
01:34:05,270 --> 01:34:02,219
and uh my phone rings and I pick it up

2238
01:34:08,270 --> 01:34:05,280
and it's this girl screaming

2239
01:34:10,970 --> 01:34:08,280
um daddy daddy they've kidnapped me

2240
01:34:13,129 --> 01:34:10,980
and and I hear this guy yelling in the

2241
01:34:16,669 --> 01:34:13,139
back I'm like what and the call came in

2242
01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:16,679
from Mexico right on my cell phone and

2243
01:34:22,850 --> 01:34:19,440
I'm listening and for a split second my

2244
01:34:25,790 --> 01:34:22,860
heart burst out of my chest right I was

2245
01:34:28,189 --> 01:34:25,800
just like what is going I mean you know

2246
01:34:31,550 --> 01:34:28,199
that tunnel vision vertigo Alfred

2247
01:34:34,370 --> 01:34:31,560
Hitchcock drawback right and everything

2248
01:34:37,610 --> 01:34:34,380
just Alters in your reality that's where

2249
01:34:40,370 --> 01:34:37,620
I was uh for a while so don't sit here

2250
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:40,380
and say something as as stupid as if you

2251
01:34:43,790 --> 01:34:41,760
fall for it

2252
01:34:46,090 --> 01:34:43,800
um that's somebody without a kid don't

2253
01:34:49,729 --> 01:34:46,100
believe it oh it's that simple

2254
01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:49,739
listen no I did listen Jimmy I feel bad

2255
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:51,600
about this I grew up in the period of

2256
01:34:55,490 --> 01:34:53,760
crank calls before there was caller ID

2257
01:34:58,129 --> 01:34:55,500
we used to prank call people all the

2258
01:35:00,410 --> 01:34:58,139
time and I did that trick oh Dad I'm in

2259
01:35:01,910 --> 01:35:00,420
trouble I got arrested I need you to

2260
01:35:03,890 --> 01:35:01,920
come bail me oh my God where are you

2261
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:03,900
they don't even question who you are

2262
01:35:08,149 --> 01:35:06,480
you're crying you're a boy I just happen

2263
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:08,159
to land the right number that they have

2264
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:10,320
a son who might be out that night his

2265
01:35:14,290 --> 01:35:12,239
first inclination is where are you how

2266
01:35:17,629 --> 01:35:14,300
much do you need I'll be right there

2267
01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:17,639
and we'd hang up the phone right it's

2268
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:19,440
not that the guy was a sucker

2269
01:35:22,129 --> 01:35:20,880
sucker that I woke up in the middle of

2270
01:35:24,590 --> 01:35:22,139
the night that's right that's right

2271
01:35:26,990 --> 01:35:24,600
we're at 11 o'clock on a Friday and he's

2272
01:35:28,729 --> 01:35:27,000
like wait what what what's going on and

2273
01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:28,739
then what was so sweet is there were a

2274
01:35:32,510 --> 01:35:30,719
few of them that are like honey listen

2275
01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:32,520
to me listen to me you have the wrong

2276
01:35:37,129 --> 01:35:34,560
number I'm not your father I'm not your

2277
01:35:39,410 --> 01:35:37,139
mom tell me where you are how much you

2278
01:35:41,030 --> 01:35:39,420
need I'll get it there and then we'll

2279
01:35:42,709 --> 01:35:41,040
get your parents to pay me back later

2280
01:35:44,090 --> 01:35:42,719
don't worry about it where I and that

2281
01:35:45,709 --> 01:35:44,100
would hit me and I stopped doing those

2282
01:35:47,570 --> 01:35:45,719
crank calls as a kid because of that I

2283
01:35:50,450 --> 01:35:47,580
was like there are some beautiful souls

2284
01:35:54,410 --> 01:35:50,460
out there man those are great responses

2285
01:35:58,850 --> 01:35:54,420
what's worse right so uh you call it Dad

2286
01:36:01,910 --> 01:35:58,860
listen man uh I'm in jail I need 500

2287
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:01,920
bail and then click who was that honey

2288
01:36:07,730 --> 01:36:11,030
[Music]

2289
01:36:15,770 --> 01:36:13,729
the crank call no no no no no no no no

2290
01:36:18,050 --> 01:36:15,780
but there's there's going to be some

2291
01:36:20,450 --> 01:36:18,060
great aspects of AI there are some

2292
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:20,460
frightening aspects of AI but what isn't

2293
01:36:24,890 --> 01:36:22,320
there I mean

2294
01:36:27,290 --> 01:36:24,900
if you look at all technology there's

2295
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:27,300
some terrifying things we're leaning

2296
01:36:33,169 --> 01:36:30,480
into robotic surgery

2297
01:36:36,649 --> 01:36:33,179
right that that literally the doctor can

2298
01:36:39,470 --> 01:36:36,659
be on the beach doing surgery on you

2299
01:36:41,930 --> 01:36:39,480
that's a far extended version of it but

2300
01:36:43,850 --> 01:36:41,940
these robots will be trained and can

2301
01:36:47,629 --> 01:36:43,860
detail the stuff as well that's

2302
01:36:51,050 --> 01:36:47,639
terrifying but if it's better then even

2303
01:36:54,050 --> 01:36:51,060
the steadiest hand of a surgeon

2304
01:36:56,629 --> 01:36:54,060
is it worth the two deaths a year

2305
01:36:58,189 --> 01:36:56,639
that'll happen because of it but the

2306
01:37:00,649 --> 01:36:58,199
thirty thousand people that will be

2307
01:37:04,370 --> 01:37:00,659
saved because of the accuracy there's

2308
01:37:07,250 --> 01:37:04,380
always an element of loss in every new

2309
01:37:09,229 --> 01:37:07,260
adaptation right

2310
01:37:11,090 --> 01:37:09,239
um seat belts gotta wear your seatbelt

2311
01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:11,100
unless you're going 65 miles an hour

2312
01:37:14,510 --> 01:37:12,960
coming into a truck because it's going

2313
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:14,520
to pull the back of that car up and kill

2314
01:37:19,550 --> 01:37:17,760
you anyway right so even things

2315
01:37:20,930 --> 01:37:19,560
technology that are built to protect you

2316
01:37:26,510 --> 01:37:20,940
can

2317
01:37:28,270 --> 01:37:26,520
what do we do and it's inevitable it's

2318
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:28,280
going to happen

2319
01:37:35,209 --> 01:37:31,440
what are we going to do when we have the

2320
01:37:37,250 --> 01:37:35,219
Deep fake AI of the Pope saying some

2321
01:37:40,850 --> 01:37:37,260
crazy thing that upsets half of the

2322
01:37:43,209 --> 01:37:40,860
planet or or Biden or president or Trump

2323
01:37:47,570 --> 01:37:43,219
or whoever

2324
01:37:50,570 --> 01:37:47,580
that it's going to take a few days for

2325
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:50,580
us to figure out but in the meantime the

2326
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:53,040
damage is done uh what did we do about

2327
01:37:58,910 --> 01:37:55,440
that and then you have to defend

2328
01:38:02,870 --> 01:37:58,920
yourself that it wasn't you saying that

2329
01:38:04,129 --> 01:38:02,880
but once once people see it they can't

2330
01:38:06,590 --> 01:38:04,139
unsee it

2331
01:38:08,750 --> 01:38:06,600
well it's like okay the Dalai Lama story

2332
01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:08,760
from a few weeks ago right did you see

2333
01:38:13,310 --> 01:38:11,520
that right where the dolly there's a

2334
01:38:16,010 --> 01:38:13,320
video of The Dalai Lama telling this kid

2335
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:16,020
to suck his tongue right and the world

2336
01:38:21,709 --> 01:38:18,480
went up in arms and I went up and I

2337
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:21,719
posted I'm like my God where are we

2338
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:23,520
going on this planet this is the Dalai

2339
01:38:27,110 --> 01:38:24,960
Lama

2340
01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:27,120
and then there was somebody that wrote a

2341
01:38:30,169 --> 01:38:28,320
very well thought out thing and they're

2342
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:30,179
like what you don't know about the

2343
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:32,880
culture is this and this could have been

2344
01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:35,280
complete fluff and Bs but it gave me

2345
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:37,199
another perspective and it was they had

2346
01:38:42,890 --> 01:38:41,040
this brilliant story of uh that you

2347
01:38:44,990 --> 01:38:42,900
carry the candy to give the child when

2348
01:38:48,290 --> 01:38:45,000
you no longer have the candy you give of

2349
01:38:52,250 --> 01:38:48,300
yourself and a kiss is is just a kiss

2350
01:38:53,870 --> 01:38:52,260
and he asked the boy for a kiss and uh

2351
01:38:55,550 --> 01:38:53,880
the boy supposedly asked him for candy

2352
01:38:57,290 --> 01:38:55,560
and he didn't have any left and he said

2353
01:38:59,810 --> 01:38:57,300
you can suck my tongue so it's being

2354
01:39:01,669 --> 01:38:59,820
taken contextually out of order from

2355
01:39:02,930 --> 01:39:01,679
what took place to us on this side of

2356
01:39:05,330 --> 01:39:02,940
the planet it's like

2357
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:05,340
you told a kid to suck your tongue you

2358
01:39:09,649 --> 01:39:07,440
dirty old pervert on the other side you

2359
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:09,659
don't know that this is part of

2360
01:39:14,750 --> 01:39:12,960
a culture and a concept as opposed to he

2361
01:39:16,669 --> 01:39:14,760
was real not really looking for them to

2362
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:16,679
suck his tongue and the Dalai Lama's

2363
01:39:21,950 --> 01:39:18,719
goofball and a prankster everybody talks

2364
01:39:23,450 --> 01:39:21,960
about it now I being honest with they

2365
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:23,460
didn't do the due diligence to see if

2366
01:39:27,470 --> 01:39:25,920
this article was true but it was an

2367
01:39:29,930 --> 01:39:27,480
interesting element that this woman came

2368
01:39:32,330 --> 01:39:29,940
out to defend and explained this is what

2369
01:39:34,129 --> 01:39:32,340
was really being meant and said but it

2370
01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:34,139
did taper down so maybe there was some

2371
01:39:37,790 --> 01:39:36,000
truth to that

2372
01:39:40,129 --> 01:39:37,800
um you also might just be dealing with

2373
01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:40,139
an old man who's senile and

2374
01:39:43,610 --> 01:39:42,000
as smart and as an intelligent

2375
01:39:45,470 --> 01:39:43,620
compassion as he is there are some

2376
01:39:47,870 --> 01:39:45,480
misfirings that might be happening or

2377
01:39:49,970 --> 01:39:47,880
we're finally seeing something that's

2378
01:39:52,129 --> 01:39:49,980
been hidden from us for a long time it's

2379
01:39:54,169 --> 01:39:52,139
so hard to tell in this culture but

2380
01:39:57,169 --> 01:39:54,179
that's why everybody no matter what we

2381
01:40:00,050 --> 01:39:57,179
see we have to sort the information

2382
01:40:02,149 --> 01:40:00,060
but in all honesty Jimmy if I have a

2383
01:40:05,209 --> 01:40:02,159
video of you that's released throwing

2384
01:40:07,610 --> 01:40:05,219
the n-word around and these people Gotta

2385
01:40:09,229 --> 01:40:07,620
Die and that people Gotta Die of course

2386
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:09,239
your initial reaction is going to be

2387
01:40:13,790 --> 01:40:11,520
Schroeder made that up on AI it's all

2388
01:40:15,410 --> 01:40:13,800
because that's going to be the go-to now

2389
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:15,420
you know that was that was created

2390
01:40:20,930 --> 01:40:18,480
through AI unless 18 people have it from

2391
01:40:24,290 --> 01:40:20,940
18 different angles saying that same

2392
01:40:26,930 --> 01:40:24,300
thing that's going to be the the

2393
01:40:29,390 --> 01:40:26,940
the go-to for all of this so I don't

2394
01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:29,400
know we're not getting the truth in 90

2395
01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:31,440
of what we see out there

2396
01:40:36,590 --> 01:40:34,320
even in my statement I'm wrong right I'm

2397
01:40:38,689 --> 01:40:36,600
putting out that 90 of the truth or the

2398
01:40:40,250 --> 01:40:38,699
stories we're getting are incorrect that

2399
01:40:42,350 --> 01:40:40,260
statement is incorrect but people will

2400
01:40:45,129 --> 01:40:42,360
take it as fact because a guy on the

2401
01:40:47,810 --> 01:40:45,139
internet said it now so

2402
01:40:50,450 --> 01:40:47,820
the world is in a weird place man we get

2403
01:40:52,370 --> 01:40:50,460
our information from headlines that are

2404
01:40:55,310 --> 01:40:52,380
often misquoted misunderstood or

2405
01:40:57,169 --> 01:40:55,320
misrepresented or used as click bait

2406
01:41:00,169 --> 01:40:57,179
headlines to get attention and people

2407
01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,179
take it as real or factual and they post

2408
01:41:03,709 --> 01:41:02,159
it up and that's all you read about it

2409
01:41:06,169 --> 01:41:03,719
and now you're up in arms because the

2410
01:41:07,850 --> 01:41:06,179
Dalai Lama wanted to suck a kid's tongue

2411
01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:07,860
but you don't know anything more than

2412
01:41:11,209 --> 01:41:09,360
that and that's disgusting and I don't

2413
01:41:13,970 --> 01:41:11,219
need to know more

2414
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:13,980
yeah yeah yeah I I still don't know a

2415
01:41:19,310 --> 01:41:15,840
whole lot about that story

2416
01:41:21,649 --> 01:41:19,320
um I I saw the videos and and I saw the

2417
01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:21,659
comments about it and and I backed off

2418
01:41:28,610 --> 01:41:24,960
it was almost too much for me to handle

2419
01:41:31,310 --> 01:41:28,620
um which is is also the the impact that

2420
01:41:33,649 --> 01:41:31,320
that kind of stuff has on everybody and

2421
01:41:35,689 --> 01:41:33,659
but here's here's the

2422
01:41:41,530 --> 01:41:35,699
here's the other interesting Twist on

2423
01:41:44,510 --> 01:41:41,540
all of this when if we look back at the

2424
01:41:47,629 --> 01:41:44,520
conspiracy theories and conspiracies

2425
01:41:51,229 --> 01:41:47,639
that have been laid out in the last five

2426
01:41:56,030 --> 01:41:51,239
we can even go back 10 years uh some of

2427
01:41:58,910 --> 01:41:56,040
the craziest way out there stuff and I

2428
01:42:00,530 --> 01:41:58,920
had said to everybody going through this

2429
01:42:02,450 --> 01:42:00,540
you know they used to call me the king

2430
01:42:04,250 --> 01:42:02,460
of conspiracy I didn't call myself the

2431
01:42:06,770 --> 01:42:04,260
king of conspiracy everybody else did

2432
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:06,780
that's fine because I love a good

2433
01:42:11,629 --> 01:42:09,119
conspiracy I like I like to go down the

2434
01:42:13,609 --> 01:42:11,639
rabbit hole right you know and figure

2435
01:42:17,870 --> 01:42:13,619
stuff out

2436
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:17,880
um and and or or not but if a conspiracy

2437
01:42:24,410 --> 01:42:21,360
turns out to be true that's scarier than

2438
01:42:26,930 --> 01:42:24,420
it not being true I mean it's it's just

2439
01:42:29,689 --> 01:42:26,940
insane because some conspiracies are

2440
01:42:33,290 --> 01:42:29,699
real but here's I I had warned everybody

2441
01:42:35,330 --> 01:42:33,300
over the last 10 years don't go all in

2442
01:42:37,070 --> 01:42:35,340
don't go all in because if you go all in

2443
01:42:39,530 --> 01:42:37,080
there's a possibility you can't come

2444
01:42:41,629 --> 01:42:39,540
back off of it you don't want to ruin

2445
01:42:44,149 --> 01:42:41,639
relationships and family and friends and

2446
01:42:48,350 --> 01:42:44,159
everything else don't go all in get

2447
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:48,360
close take a look right take a look but

2448
01:42:55,070 --> 01:42:51,119
don't go all in take a peek but don't go

2449
01:42:58,910 --> 01:42:55,080
all in so many did and now we can look

2450
01:43:00,649 --> 01:42:58,920
back at in the last five to ten years

2451
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,659
and go

2452
01:43:04,250 --> 01:43:02,400
but that

2453
01:43:07,250 --> 01:43:04,260
did that really happen were people

2454
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,260
really discussing this in a real in a

2455
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:08,880
Real Fashion

2456
01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:10,560
um and and if you take a look at

2457
01:43:13,790 --> 01:43:12,239
something like

2458
01:43:16,370 --> 01:43:13,800
um Flat Earth

2459
01:43:21,169 --> 01:43:16,380
Flat Earth took hold

2460
01:43:22,570 --> 01:43:21,179
it took hold Dave oh I know I know I

2461
01:43:27,229 --> 01:43:22,580
mean there is

2462
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:27,239
no it's not what it used to be but so

2463
01:43:32,750 --> 01:43:30,960
many went all in on that

2464
01:43:35,169 --> 01:43:32,760
and you can't it's something that you

2465
01:43:39,310 --> 01:43:35,179
really can't come back from

2466
01:43:41,629 --> 01:43:39,320
yeah I used to be a flat earther what

2467
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:41,639
well that's not so bad we all used to be

2468
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:43,199
flat earthers at one point and we

2469
01:43:48,169 --> 01:43:46,800
learned science so we changed but like I

2470
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:48,179
have a guy right now emailing me he's

2471
01:43:52,669 --> 01:43:51,119
like I will convince you that we are on

2472
01:43:55,209 --> 01:43:52,679
a flat Earth please have me on your show

2473
01:43:58,189 --> 01:43:55,219
and I've I did that talk

2474
01:44:00,290 --> 01:43:58,199
seven years ago and and I had a guest

2475
01:44:02,570 --> 01:44:00,300
not once but twice because his first

2476
01:44:04,370 --> 01:44:02,580
visit with me was so compelling

2477
01:44:06,410 --> 01:44:04,380
I didn't say believable I said

2478
01:44:07,609 --> 01:44:06,420
compelling that I wanted to have him

2479
01:44:10,129 --> 01:44:07,619
back because

2480
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:10,139
I wanted to let my brain

2481
01:44:14,510 --> 01:44:12,000
marinade on the things that he said

2482
01:44:16,430 --> 01:44:14,520
instead of knee-jerk and then we had

2483
01:44:18,530 --> 01:44:16,440
them back on and and it was a little bit

2484
01:44:20,510 --> 01:44:18,540
more contentious with the listeners on

2485
01:44:23,090 --> 01:44:20,520
the second round but it was still

2486
01:44:26,450 --> 01:44:23,100
it's interesting and like I said I find

2487
01:44:28,490 --> 01:44:26,460
why you believe the Earth is flat more

2488
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:28,500
interesting than if the Earth really is

2489
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:31,440
flat because truthfully I don't care I

2490
01:44:34,729 --> 01:44:33,119
still have to drive to work and put my

2491
01:44:37,850 --> 01:44:34,739
pants on one leg at a time I don't care

2492
01:44:41,450 --> 01:44:37,860
if it's round flat or a hot dog who

2493
01:44:42,770 --> 01:44:41,460
cares what is what who cares what does

2494
01:44:46,010 --> 01:44:42,780
that really have to do with the whole

2495
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:46,020
Cosmic scheme of things right who cares

2496
01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,199
but it's it's fascinating and I like I

2497
01:44:54,350 --> 01:44:51,360
like talking crazy once in a while and

2498
01:44:56,689 --> 01:44:54,360
having a a lunatic fringe conversation

2499
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,699
because I like to I like once in a while

2500
01:44:59,930 --> 01:44:57,840
to have somebody

2501
01:45:02,149 --> 01:44:59,940
Kick Out The Moorings of my short up

2502
01:45:05,870 --> 01:45:02,159
home and make me go hey wait a minute

2503
01:45:08,290 --> 01:45:05,880
that sounds weird 100 100 what if that's

2504
01:45:12,530 --> 01:45:08,300
true oh no

2505
01:45:14,930 --> 01:45:12,540
when um uh I don't want to say I'm flat

2506
01:45:18,050 --> 01:45:14,940
Earth for uh a whole long

2507
01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:18,060
a whole large amount of time but I keep

2508
01:45:22,010 --> 01:45:19,679
going back and I've had these different

2509
01:45:25,010 --> 01:45:22,020
flat earther guys on the show and and I

2510
01:45:28,850 --> 01:45:25,020
am I I just always felt bad for them

2511
01:45:30,350 --> 01:45:28,860
because of the way that they make

2512
01:45:33,950 --> 01:45:30,360
themselves look

2513
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:33,960
and then I ask myself why why do you

2514
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:38,159
allow yourself to buy into it or is it

2515
01:45:44,510 --> 01:45:41,760
that they just want to debate and

2516
01:45:46,250 --> 01:45:44,520
they're just a debater and Flat Earth is

2517
01:45:48,890 --> 01:45:46,260
the subject you know the debate team

2518
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:48,900
you're outside you're on the other pick

2519
01:45:53,629 --> 01:45:51,840
a side and you go at it and maybe that's

2520
01:45:55,729 --> 01:45:53,639
just they want to see how far that they

2521
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:55,739
can push it because in the end I just

2522
01:46:02,830 --> 01:45:59,040
feel bad I feel bad everything pours out

2523
01:46:09,050 --> 01:46:06,649
I wanted to say this when I was a kid I

2524
01:46:10,609 --> 01:46:09,060
lived on this island that was connected

2525
01:46:12,410 --> 01:46:10,619
it was kind of like an island it's

2526
01:46:15,709 --> 01:46:12,420
called Fort Amador down in Central

2527
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:15,719
America and off uh at the at the

2528
01:46:20,810 --> 01:46:18,480
entrance to the Panama Canal and off

2529
01:46:22,550 --> 01:46:20,820
about 10 12 miles out is this island

2530
01:46:25,729 --> 01:46:22,560
called taboga

2531
01:46:28,669 --> 01:46:25,739
and and you could take a ferry out to

2532
01:46:31,310 --> 01:46:28,679
toboga and and the first ferry trip that

2533
01:46:33,649 --> 01:46:31,320
I took I was like 13 14 years old taking

2534
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:33,659
a ferry out to toboga and what I ended

2535
01:46:37,550 --> 01:46:34,800
up seeing

2536
01:46:39,530 --> 01:46:37,560
I didn't realize was out there because

2537
01:46:43,550 --> 01:46:39,540
it was so far away but as you got closer

2538
01:46:47,629 --> 01:46:43,560
to toboga what you didn't see from my

2539
01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:47,639
house were the hundreds of ships that

2540
01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:49,679
were out over the horizon waiting to

2541
01:46:53,209 --> 01:46:51,360
come through the Panama Canal they're

2542
01:46:55,729 --> 01:46:53,219
all parked they're all moored out there

2543
01:46:58,669 --> 01:46:55,739
and we come up over you know and I'm

2544
01:47:01,250 --> 01:46:58,679
like wow that's a lot of ships whoa

2545
01:47:03,050 --> 01:47:01,260
that's a lot of holy mackerel that's a

2546
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:03,060
lot of ships

2547
01:47:08,750 --> 01:47:06,840
and it's only because the Earth is round

2548
01:47:11,870 --> 01:47:08,760
that I saw that

2549
01:47:14,750 --> 01:47:11,880
if it was flat I would have seen it

2550
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:14,760
every single day and no flat earther can

2551
01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:17,600
take that away from me

2552
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:20,880
they you simply cannot do it and if you

2553
01:47:24,169 --> 01:47:22,860
look on Google Earth you can see exactly

2554
01:47:26,510 --> 01:47:24,179
what I'm talking about you can see all

2555
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:26,520
the ships that are moored out there

2556
01:47:31,070 --> 01:47:28,560
um and and that's it it's like a

2557
01:47:33,470 --> 01:47:31,080
conversation over now one last thing

2558
01:47:35,870 --> 01:47:33,480
hold on

2559
01:47:42,709 --> 01:47:35,880
zombies

2560
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:42,719
is it

2561
01:47:49,310 --> 01:47:46,560
you know part of the UFO thing in

2562
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:49,320
Hollywood and everything else

2563
01:47:57,169 --> 01:47:53,520
is the concept of zombies a real one

2564
01:47:59,530 --> 01:47:57,179
right the apocalyptic Earth Dave

2565
01:48:02,990 --> 01:47:59,540
Schrader and Jimmy with their

2566
01:48:06,290 --> 01:48:03,000
apocalyptic Jeep driving across the

2567
01:48:08,510 --> 01:48:06,300
wastelands mowing down zombies first of

2568
01:48:10,970 --> 01:48:08,520
all you don't want a Jeep in the

2569
01:48:12,910 --> 01:48:10,980
Wasteland because zombies can get into

2570
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:12,920
Jeeps way too easily Man

2571
01:48:18,890 --> 01:48:15,840
Armored tanks you want trucks that are

2572
01:48:20,450 --> 01:48:18,900
fully enclosed not a Jeep Jimmy I will I

2573
01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:20,460
will follow behind you in your Jeep

2574
01:48:26,810 --> 01:48:22,639
while I'm in my SUV

2575
01:48:28,490 --> 01:48:26,820
is it Apostle is that something that you

2576
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:28,500
know some now that we've gone through

2577
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:31,199
the pandemic and seen uh what what is

2578
01:48:34,850 --> 01:48:33,360
possible out there

2579
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:34,860
um and we know all right are you ready

2580
01:48:41,750 --> 01:48:38,639
yeah go ahead all right so first of all

2581
01:48:45,530 --> 01:48:41,760
this is this is why zombies are so

2582
01:48:47,870 --> 01:48:45,540
great at terrifying us or unnerving US

2583
01:48:48,770 --> 01:48:47,880
making us uncomfortable I'm I'm covering

2584
01:48:51,169 --> 01:48:48,780
all those because I know you're gonna

2585
01:48:53,209 --> 01:48:51,179
have listeners I'm not afraid of zombies

2586
01:48:55,070 --> 01:48:53,219
I'm covering the concept that they're

2587
01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:55,080
unnerving they're uncomfortable they're

2588
01:49:00,590 --> 01:48:59,040
they're uh unsettling it's because it

2589
01:49:02,810 --> 01:49:00,600
could happen

2590
01:49:04,850 --> 01:49:02,820
to anyone

2591
01:49:08,990 --> 01:49:04,860
it could be your wife

2592
01:49:11,330 --> 01:49:09,000
your own child and in a moment there are

2593
01:49:13,970 --> 01:49:11,340
murderous rage trying to eat you that's

2594
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:13,980
terrifying because then the enemy Jimmy

2595
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:16,080
is everybody it's not just vampires with

2596
01:49:23,030 --> 01:49:18,480
fangs or guys that turn into werewolves

2597
01:49:26,990 --> 01:49:23,040
or uh Galactic Empire Stormtroopers it

2598
01:49:29,629 --> 01:49:27,000
is and could be anyone at any given

2599
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:29,639
moment because we're all held up just

2600
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:32,159
fine in the church bunker we're all fine

2601
01:49:36,109 --> 01:49:34,320
Jimmy your house is safe we're good

2602
01:49:38,689 --> 01:49:36,119
we've got water and a water supply

2603
01:49:40,189 --> 01:49:38,699
that's good for 35 years we've got food

2604
01:49:43,129 --> 01:49:40,199
and rations that'll get us through the

2605
01:49:45,470 --> 01:49:43,139
next 25 years we're fine hey man I gotta

2606
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:45,480
go to bed I'm exhausted I go into my

2607
01:49:48,649 --> 01:49:46,560
room and I have a heart attack that

2608
01:49:50,570 --> 01:49:48,659
night and rise from the dead and you

2609
01:49:51,890 --> 01:49:50,580
guys are all safe in your home until I

2610
01:49:54,109 --> 01:49:51,900
come walking out and bite one of you

2611
01:49:55,790 --> 01:49:54,119
that's terrifying because it it could be

2612
01:49:57,950 --> 01:49:55,800
anybody at any time and there really is

2613
01:49:59,450 --> 01:49:57,960
no safe place because if you do come

2614
01:50:01,910 --> 01:49:59,460
back from the dead to go into this

2615
01:50:03,770 --> 01:50:01,920
feverish angry hungry form

2616
01:50:06,290 --> 01:50:03,780
there's no protection you don't know

2617
01:50:08,570 --> 01:50:06,300
when it could happen to anybody right so

2618
01:50:10,189 --> 01:50:08,580
I think that's why it innately gets into

2619
01:50:11,870 --> 01:50:10,199
our heads

2620
01:50:14,090 --> 01:50:11,880
um however

2621
01:50:16,970 --> 01:50:14,100
I'm going to now give you a conspiracy

2622
01:50:19,250 --> 01:50:16,980
to investigate

2623
01:50:22,189 --> 01:50:19,260
I believe

2624
01:50:24,169 --> 01:50:22,199
that a zombie apocalypse did begin a

2625
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:24,179
handful of years ago

2626
01:50:28,430 --> 01:50:25,920
I believe

2627
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:28,440
hear me out on this

2628
01:50:32,510 --> 01:50:29,280
um

2629
01:50:34,910 --> 01:50:32,520
you remember bath salts I do the drug

2630
01:50:37,010 --> 01:50:34,920
bath salts right this shows how stupid I

2631
01:50:38,990 --> 01:50:37,020
am kids are smoking bath salts I was

2632
01:50:40,609 --> 01:50:39,000
like oh that's baloney I went home and I

2633
01:50:44,689 --> 01:50:40,619
threw all the bath salts we had at home

2634
01:50:46,669 --> 01:50:44,699
away I'm like my kids are smoking just

2635
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:46,679
take a bath in it what are you bath

2636
01:50:52,189 --> 01:50:49,679
salts and I know Dad bath salts is a

2637
01:50:54,050 --> 01:50:52,199
drug it's not actual bath salts it's

2638
01:50:56,990 --> 01:50:54,060
just that's the street to him I was like

2639
01:50:58,729 --> 01:50:57,000
oh okay but now going back into the

2640
01:51:01,850 --> 01:50:58,739
reality of it

2641
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:01,860
this was the news headlines

2642
01:51:07,310 --> 01:51:04,080
for weeks

2643
01:51:09,890 --> 01:51:07,320
that people were attacking people

2644
01:51:12,050 --> 01:51:09,900
there was somebody they busted eating

2645
01:51:14,149 --> 01:51:12,060
the face off a hobo

2646
01:51:17,450 --> 01:51:14,159
there was another woman that ate her

2647
01:51:20,209 --> 01:51:17,460
grandchild there were other attacks on

2648
01:51:23,149 --> 01:51:20,219
family members well what happens is the

2649
01:51:25,250 --> 01:51:23,159
synthetic drugs strip part of the brain

2650
01:51:28,609 --> 01:51:25,260
neurons blah blah blah blah blah science

2651
01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:28,619
science in that innate animal part of us

2652
01:51:32,510 --> 01:51:30,060
comes out

2653
01:51:35,209 --> 01:51:32,520
so that is a zombie

2654
01:51:37,250 --> 01:51:35,219
Jimmy bath salts haven't gone away

2655
01:51:40,490 --> 01:51:37,260
are we agreed that is still a drug that

2656
01:51:42,530 --> 01:51:40,500
is still out there yeppers why aren't

2657
01:51:44,990 --> 01:51:42,540
people eating people anymore

2658
01:51:48,229 --> 01:51:45,000
why aren't we hearing about those

2659
01:51:50,030 --> 01:51:48,239
attacks it's continuing have we just

2660
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,040
gotten so desensitized to it that oh

2661
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:52,320
it's just another bath salt zombie

2662
01:51:57,290 --> 01:51:54,719
eating people I think something did

2663
01:52:00,350 --> 01:51:57,300
happen I think something did go off the

2664
01:52:02,629 --> 01:52:00,360
charts we blamed it on a drug it we've

2665
01:52:04,490 --> 01:52:02,639
got it under control now we we're not

2666
01:52:05,990 --> 01:52:04,500
under control and if you for you and

2667
01:52:08,090 --> 01:52:06,000
your listeners you don't believe me go

2668
01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:08,100
back what was it it was maybe 10 years

2669
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:10,800
ago no the the face eating that was

2670
01:52:14,629 --> 01:52:12,960
about five years ago they'd probably be

2671
01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:14,639
surprised how much further out it is

2672
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:16,800
than you think it is but yeah go and

2673
01:52:22,490 --> 01:52:19,199
start looking at zombie bath salt

2674
01:52:24,649 --> 01:52:22,500
attacks and you'll be it's like within a

2675
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:24,659
seven to eight month period every week

2676
01:52:28,250 --> 01:52:26,400
we were hearing these brutal attacks

2677
01:52:30,109 --> 01:52:28,260
coming from all parts of the United

2678
01:52:32,689 --> 01:52:30,119
States and around the world

2679
01:52:36,229 --> 01:52:32,699
and then it stopped

2680
01:52:39,709 --> 01:52:36,239
okay that to me is crazy that's crazy

2681
01:52:43,310 --> 01:52:39,719
Jimmy what happened oh wow okay yeah

2682
01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:43,320
you're right 2012. yeah see 10 years ago

2683
01:52:49,030 --> 01:52:46,560
13 year 11 12 13 years ago that took

2684
01:52:55,850 --> 01:52:49,040
place okay there was another one in

2685
01:52:58,609 --> 01:52:55,860
2014. uh 2016. uh okay but that but that

2686
01:53:00,410 --> 01:52:58,619
in 2012 when it first started there was

2687
01:53:02,750 --> 01:53:00,420
like a glut of them yeah in my eyes

2688
01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:02,760
every week that was happening no it was

2689
01:53:06,410 --> 01:53:04,800
all over man it was all over now I'm

2690
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:06,420
getting all conspiratorial crazy it's

2691
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:10,560
all over man game over man uh but it was

2692
01:53:14,990 --> 01:53:12,960
taking place but you see some of these

2693
01:53:17,090 --> 01:53:15,000
attacks still do happen I don't know

2694
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:17,100
that it's fully contained that to me is

2695
01:53:21,050 --> 01:53:19,199
a fun concern that's like a oh man

2696
01:53:24,590 --> 01:53:21,060
Schrader sounds nuts but wait a minute

2697
01:53:26,450 --> 01:53:24,600
it happened bath salts didn't go away

2698
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:26,460
why are people not eating each other

2699
01:53:31,790 --> 01:53:28,080
anymore

2700
01:53:34,010 --> 01:53:31,800
that's strange so they did the uh what

2701
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:34,020
was that movie Monkey Shine or whatever

2702
01:53:39,530 --> 01:53:37,440
so they did the uh the containment and

2703
01:53:42,649 --> 01:53:39,540
then blamed it on yeah they contained it

2704
01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:42,659
and blamed it on bath salts yeah the

2705
01:53:48,109 --> 01:53:44,880
zombie apocalypse started but we stopped

2706
01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:48,119
it that's my take on it hey when kovid's

2707
01:53:52,490 --> 01:53:50,400
set and I still wasn't sure what I

2708
01:53:55,370 --> 01:53:52,500
believed in all of this I woke up one

2709
01:53:57,530 --> 01:53:55,380
day like all of us and I had uh uh two

2710
01:54:00,109 --> 01:53:57,540
weeks worth of growth on my face I'd let

2711
01:54:02,030 --> 01:54:00,119
my hair grow I'd look crazy right my

2712
01:54:04,910 --> 01:54:02,040
eyebrows were all Askew I was not in

2713
01:54:06,770 --> 01:54:04,920
darkness Dave mode I was just crazy and

2714
01:54:08,930 --> 01:54:06,780
I sat down and I got a caught I caught

2715
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:08,940
myself in the mirror and I'm like you

2716
01:54:12,530 --> 01:54:11,280
look like a lunatic so I sat down and I

2717
01:54:15,890 --> 01:54:12,540
started doing this video and I'm like

2718
01:54:18,109 --> 01:54:15,900
hey man I'm thinking there's stuff going

2719
01:54:21,950 --> 01:54:18,119
on right man we're in the middle of a

2720
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:21,960
global pandemic right and at the same

2721
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:25,440
time this Global pandemic takes over man

2722
01:54:30,350 --> 01:54:28,320
they start talking about aliens and UFOs

2723
01:54:33,530 --> 01:54:30,360
and uaps and they're releasing videos

2724
01:54:37,810 --> 01:54:33,540
why man think about it you know why

2725
01:54:40,970 --> 01:54:37,820
there's no Global pandemic

2726
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,980
the aliens are always listening and

2727
01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:42,719
we're trying to scare them off from

2728
01:54:47,090 --> 01:54:44,880
taking over the planet man so it's War

2729
01:54:48,890 --> 01:54:47,100
of the Worlds man the common cold could

2730
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:48,900
take him out we're going to talk about

2731
01:54:55,970 --> 01:54:53,520
this Global pandemic wink wink that's

2732
01:54:58,370 --> 01:54:55,980
taking over the planet to keep the

2733
01:55:00,290 --> 01:54:58,380
aliens from trying to take over and I

2734
01:55:02,510 --> 01:55:00,300
did this lunatic five minute video and

2735
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:02,520
I'm like I gotta go man I gotta go

2736
01:55:07,370 --> 01:55:04,560
things are happening man and I click it

2737
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:07,380
and I put it up and people laughed and

2738
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,080
Jimmy I got emails from a few people

2739
01:55:14,330 --> 01:55:12,480
again could just be complete BS but a

2740
01:55:16,910 --> 01:55:14,340
couple people from government agencies

2741
01:55:17,930 --> 01:55:16,920
claiming I know you think you're being a

2742
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:17,940
smart ass

2743
01:55:24,410 --> 01:55:20,880
but you're a lot closer to reality right

2744
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:24,420
you know right and I was like oh damn

2745
01:55:28,550 --> 01:55:26,159
son what

2746
01:55:31,129 --> 01:55:28,560
so were they really people in the know

2747
01:55:32,990 --> 01:55:31,139
that we're trying to tip their hat to me

2748
01:55:34,490 --> 01:55:33,000
or were they just playing into the

2749
01:55:35,870 --> 01:55:34,500
craziness that's all promise we don't

2750
01:55:38,090 --> 01:55:35,880
really know where everything comes from

2751
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:38,100
we don't know this and it wasn't me

2752
01:55:43,790 --> 01:55:41,760
meaning to poop on the whole concept of

2753
01:55:46,189 --> 01:55:43,800
covet and I know it was very real and

2754
01:55:49,189 --> 01:55:46,199
I've I lost over a dozen people to covet

2755
01:55:51,890 --> 01:55:49,199
during the height of it heartbreaking

2756
01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:51,900
I wasn't trying to decry that it was

2757
01:55:54,830 --> 01:55:53,520
just I thought it was funny that during

2758
01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:54,840
the middle of this Global pandemic

2759
01:55:59,330 --> 01:55:55,920
suddenly we're going to start talking

2760
01:56:01,070 --> 01:55:59,340
about UFOs and releasing videos and news

2761
01:56:03,590 --> 01:56:01,080
to the you know I thought wow this is

2762
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:03,600
really this this is weird and how can I

2763
01:56:07,729 --> 01:56:05,280
tie this together and looking so crazy

2764
01:56:09,290 --> 01:56:07,739
and conspiratorial I just thought I'd

2765
01:56:11,570 --> 01:56:09,300
release that video but it's it's

2766
01:56:14,209 --> 01:56:11,580
interesting how close

2767
01:56:15,950 --> 01:56:14,219
we get sometimes I still I have had

2768
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:15,960
phone calls where I hear clicking on my

2769
01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:17,040
line

2770
01:56:22,010 --> 01:56:19,199
I don't know if you get that every day

2771
01:56:24,229 --> 01:56:22,020
yeah I get some weird stuff that happens

2772
01:56:27,530 --> 01:56:24,239
I get where I'm in the midst of writing

2773
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:27,540
an email about a sensitive topic that we

2774
01:56:31,129 --> 01:56:29,280
kind of cover and all of a sudden the

2775
01:56:33,950 --> 01:56:31,139
email disappears

2776
01:56:36,410 --> 01:56:33,960
while I'm in the middle of emailing it

2777
01:56:38,330 --> 01:56:36,420
and I'm like what just happened and I

2778
01:56:40,669 --> 01:56:38,340
try to rewrite it and it goes out again

2779
01:56:42,169 --> 01:56:40,679
and I reboot my system and I go to my

2780
01:56:44,090 --> 01:56:42,179
other laptop and I'm like maybe that

2781
01:56:45,290 --> 01:56:44,100
computer's got a bug and I start typing

2782
01:56:47,870 --> 01:56:45,300
and I get to that same point and

2783
01:56:49,490 --> 01:56:47,880
something shuts down my email at the

2784
01:56:51,050 --> 01:56:49,500
same point every time and then I go

2785
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:51,060
write another letter to Jimmy just to

2786
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:53,520
say hey Jimmy love barbecue how do you

2787
01:56:57,109 --> 01:56:54,960
feel about The Partridge Family Jimmy

2788
01:56:58,430 --> 01:56:57,119
nobody interrupts that email but the

2789
01:57:01,609 --> 01:56:58,440
minute I start writing about a certain

2790
01:57:05,229 --> 01:57:01,619
subject my emails have been shut down so

2791
01:57:09,290 --> 01:57:05,239
but but Dave what

2792
01:57:12,169 --> 01:57:09,300
the the funny part or the Fantastical

2793
01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:12,179
part of the conspiratorial part or the

2794
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:15,119
Supernatural part of all of this is the

2795
01:57:23,089 --> 01:57:18,800
part that really isn't as scary

2796
01:57:25,070 --> 01:57:23,099
as what the truth may be right right

2797
01:57:28,669 --> 01:57:25,080
that's that's that's what that's what

2798
01:57:32,450 --> 01:57:28,679
messes with my head for instance if if

2799
01:57:34,729 --> 01:57:32,460
we talk about the pandemic right and now

2800
01:57:40,430 --> 01:57:34,739
you've got all the conspiracy stuff

2801
01:57:44,089 --> 01:57:40,440
right the vaxes have uh our ID chips in

2802
01:57:46,430 --> 01:57:44,099
it and and it's for the Illuminati to

2803
01:57:48,109 --> 01:57:46,440
take over the world and and it's this or

2804
01:57:49,970 --> 01:57:48,119
what you know all of that conspiration

2805
01:57:53,689 --> 01:57:49,980
you know what's you know what's scarier

2806
01:57:56,510 --> 01:57:53,699
about that is that nature could take us

2807
01:57:58,669 --> 01:57:56,520
all out if it wanted to dude we're

2808
01:58:00,770 --> 01:57:58,679
pouring into glaciers yeah we're going

2809
01:58:04,850 --> 01:58:00,780
10 000 years back and we're Awakening

2810
01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:04,860
viruses what they do Siberia is thawing

2811
01:58:13,790 --> 01:58:08,880
right and and that that that to me is

2812
01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:13,800
much scarier than than the Illuminati uh

2813
01:58:19,010 --> 01:58:16,800
reptilian overlords you know taking over

2814
01:58:20,689 --> 01:58:19,020
the world with with contaminated

2815
01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:20,699
vaccines

2816
01:58:26,930 --> 01:58:24,480
um that's that to me is is much more

2817
01:58:29,750 --> 01:58:26,940
frightening and which brings up subjects

2818
01:58:33,830 --> 01:58:29,760
like you know zombies uh that's scary

2819
01:58:36,830 --> 01:58:33,840
the um the whole aspect of like the Tic

2820
01:58:38,810 --> 01:58:36,840
Tac video where

2821
01:58:41,689 --> 01:58:38,820
um you know aliens you know they're here

2822
01:58:43,550 --> 01:58:41,699
they've got technology and well okay and

2823
01:58:46,250 --> 01:58:43,560
I clearly believe we are being visited

2824
01:58:48,229 --> 01:58:46,260
every single day by E.T and they know

2825
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:48,239
that we're here you know what the

2826
01:58:55,370 --> 01:58:51,119
scarier part about the Tic Tac video is

2827
01:58:57,709 --> 01:58:55,380
to me is that a our government has

2828
01:59:01,490 --> 01:58:57,719
technology that they haven't released or

2829
01:59:03,290 --> 01:59:01,500
B China or Russia has that technology

2830
01:59:06,649 --> 01:59:03,300
and there's nothing that we can do about

2831
01:59:08,830 --> 01:59:06,659
it that is much scary I would rather

2832
01:59:12,050 --> 01:59:08,840
have it be E.T

2833
01:59:15,410 --> 01:59:12,060
it's really the the real truth the

2834
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:15,420
conspiracy stuff is way out as it is and

2835
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:17,280
we can talk about it and think about it

2836
01:59:23,930 --> 01:59:20,639
that's great the other part a reality

2837
01:59:26,209 --> 01:59:23,940
part of it is actually scarier than what

2838
01:59:28,250 --> 01:59:26,219
everybody else wants to fight about

2839
01:59:30,530 --> 01:59:28,260
I agree man you never know what's really

2840
01:59:33,169 --> 01:59:30,540
going on out there but that's why shows

2841
01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:33,179
like ours are fun to listen to and two

2842
01:59:36,589 --> 01:59:34,320
guys

2843
01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:36,599
that have the same passions can take two

2844
01:59:40,669 --> 01:59:38,159
different approaches and looks at all of

2845
01:59:42,290 --> 01:59:40,679
this and still look I've disagreed with

2846
01:59:43,910 --> 01:59:42,300
you you've disagreed with me and we're

2847
01:59:46,430 --> 01:59:43,920
still able to have a conversation and we

2848
01:59:48,290 --> 01:59:46,440
will talk again my friend and this is

2849
01:59:50,930 --> 01:59:48,300
what the world needs to focus on having

2850
01:59:53,089 --> 01:59:50,940
disagreements but having an element to

2851
01:59:55,550 --> 01:59:53,099
talk with one another about this and why

2852
01:59:57,290 --> 01:59:55,560
we believe these certain things take

2853
01:59:59,870 --> 01:59:57,300
place or don't take place in a safe

2854
02:00:01,310 --> 01:59:59,880
environment and I'm proud of both of our

2855
02:00:03,350 --> 02:00:01,320
shows that for the years that we've been

2856
02:00:05,450 --> 02:00:03,360
doing what we do no matter what the

2857
02:00:08,089 --> 02:00:05,460
belief system is we offer a safe harbor

2858
02:00:10,250 --> 02:00:08,099
for people to come listen and share

2859
02:00:13,669 --> 02:00:10,260
their thoughts yeah that all sounds good

2860
02:00:15,649 --> 02:00:13,679
Dave but before the show you literally

2861
02:00:17,530 --> 02:00:15,659
said to me Jimmy I'm right and you're

2862
02:00:20,450 --> 02:00:17,540
wrong

2863
02:00:22,970 --> 02:00:20,460
but you didn't disagree so that's the

2864
02:00:26,209 --> 02:00:22,980
important thing

2865
02:00:28,490 --> 02:00:26,219
Trader you are the absolute very best my

2866
02:00:31,370 --> 02:00:28,500
friend uh I've learned so much from you

2867
02:00:34,430 --> 02:00:31,380
thank you and you're absolutely right uh

2868
02:00:36,910 --> 02:00:34,440
the world just needs more conversation

2869
02:00:39,290 --> 02:00:36,920
that's it that's it that's what we need

2870
02:00:41,089 --> 02:00:39,300
more straight to Black that's what we

2871
02:00:42,910 --> 02:00:41,099
need where can everybody go and chase

2872
02:00:44,709 --> 02:00:42,920
you down

2873
02:00:48,350 --> 02:00:44,719
paranormal60.com

2874
02:00:49,970 --> 02:00:48,360
information you can find out where I'm

2875
02:00:51,830 --> 02:00:49,980
going to be what trips you can join me

2876
02:00:54,350 --> 02:00:51,840
on where we can meet up uh you can

2877
02:00:56,689 --> 02:00:54,360
listen to my podcast you can uh find my

2878
02:00:59,510 --> 02:00:56,699
social media links and uh all of the fun

2879
02:01:01,970 --> 02:00:59,520
stuff there so check it out and uh be

2880
02:01:04,270 --> 02:01:01,980
safe out there folks Dave Schrader

2881
02:01:06,589 --> 02:01:04,280
everybody Dave be safe hi buddy

2882
02:01:09,050 --> 02:01:06,599
absolutely perfect conversation tonight

2883
02:01:11,810 --> 02:01:09,060
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2884
02:01:14,290 --> 02:01:11,820
we've got them over on our website and

2885
02:01:16,790 --> 02:01:14,300
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2886
02:01:19,370 --> 02:01:16,800
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2887
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2890
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2891
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2892
02:01:32,270 --> 02:01:30,360
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2893
02:01:35,570 --> 02:01:32,280
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2894
02:01:37,550 --> 02:01:35,580
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2895
02:01:39,410 --> 02:01:37,560
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2896
02:01:41,149 --> 02:01:39,420
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2897
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:41,159
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2899
02:01:46,430 --> 02:01:44,340
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2900
02:01:49,370 --> 02:01:46,440
church I'll see everybody tomorrow night

2901
02:01:57,260 --> 02:01:49,380
until then be safe